Trike Fest Drag Classes & Rules

[Billy Golightly]

As a competitor I want people that are fast enough to race against open class machines to do exactly that. I'm obviously not benefiting myself any by giving people the ability and probability of going from a class below where I would be to where I do have to race, just another chance for me to get picked off in the eliminations. When I stated earlier that the rules should not benefit anyone the point I was trying to make was that it should be equally difficult and a pain in the ass for everyone. Ya know, sorta like an equal opportunity offender. I'm not singling out anyone. If your Corey, Andrea, or Viper, I already know they can. Anyone else that can, needs to too.

I'm not running the drags, but my suggestion is since this has become such a big deal, is to just make it where the majority of the machines that are open class speeds, have to race in the open class by the way the rules are written and then there wont be any wiggle room.


This sure is an awful lot of trouble for what amounts to nothing being gained by anyone.

[Louis Mielke]

Eric dont you dare tell them what you are building, they will use the info against u, boot you to the open....because they hate you. :(

Woah woah woah. Those are some really strong words and apparently you have some underlying feelings that keep getting side stepped.

Maybe I'm oblivious to the underground rumblings but from that statement its obvious there are some going down.

That or there's some major mud slinging going on trying to pit a lot of people against each other.

I hope that no one is playing the he said she said, he doesn't like you what do you think of that kinda game going on.

Maybe this whole drag race thing needs to be put aside and if some things need to be gotten out in the open it get taken care of.

Obviously there's someone who feels like their disliked and I'd like to know the who, what, where, and most obviously the why of all this.

I find it hard to believe that some drag race rules have people thinking that they are disliked.

There's no one on this board that I hate, very very very few I dislike, and a couple I don't always see eye to eye with. Never hate.

[ATC-Eric]

Woah woah woah. Those are some really strong words and apparently you have some underlying feelings that keep getting side stepped.

Maybe I'm oblivious to the underground rumblings but from that statement its obvious there are some going down.

That or there's some major mud slinging going on trying to pit a lot of people against each other.

I hope that no one is playing the he said she said, he doesn't like you what do you think of that kinda game going on.

Maybe this whole drag race thing needs to be put aside and if some things need to be gotten out in the open it get taken care of.

Obviously there's someone who feels like their disliked and I'd like to know the who, what, where, and most obviously the why of all this.

I find it hard to believe that some drag race rules have people thinking that they are disliked.

There's no one on this board that I hate, very very very few I dislike, and a couple I don't always see eye to eye with. Never hate.

Corey was just joking about the hate thing. I could hear him laughing about his post from over a hundred miles away.



I dont have any beef, neither does Corey. So far this discussion has been civilized in my eyes, heated but civilized. There have not been any direct attacks on anyone, well almost........


I dont think its an issue if the modded class is faster. I have been going by the original posted rules by Raffa since the begginnning of this thread, not because they give me the upper hand, Im just excited about the competion that it will bring me in the modded class.

You know, if the modded class will end up being faster then the open, and the open guys feel all inferior about our wicked fast demon bikes, then maybe we should change the title from open, to exhibision!



My post last night is very colorful, my computer should come equiped with a breathalizer!

[Louis Mielke]

I hope it was only a joke but the back of my brain kinda wonders if it was.

[ATC-Eric]

It was a joke.

I want to keep all the details about my machine private, so it dosent give some of my competitors the ability to know exactly what I gots.

What Im building does conform to the original rules, no cheating here.

[Louis Mielke]

That just goes show how I'm really not much of drag racer. I don't understand why anyone cares who has what. What does that do for you? Don't get me wrong, I'm not THAT dumb. I understand the idea. I just don't see why it makes that much of a difference.

Its like, oh well I got a hand gun, well then fine I'll bring a shot gun, ok well I'll bring a grenade launcher, oh yeah, well I'll show with a tank, yeah well I got a F16, and I'd be like HA! ANTHRAX in the mess hall trumps all, death from with in!

I always figured build as big as you can. If someone shows up with something bigger, build it again for next year.
I'm kinda dumb too, I'll tell you exactly whats in my bike.

[JasonB]

SO MUCH ANGER!!! Im a little upset that my Sprock Racing 300R air cooler will be in the open class just because of the 6inch extended swing arm. I wont even be a blip on the radar in that class, but hey im just looking to have some fun. Correct me if im wrong about my class placement though, I havent red the rules that much.

I do agree that there should be changes made with the rules, theres too many variables that make this a touchy subject

jason

[Louis Mielke]

i would think you'd be in the mod class. I gotta reread the rules too. lol

i think I'm just gonna run grudge matches this year. The official event sounds kinda to beyond me a this point. I know I wouldn't win anyway.

[TRITecate350]

Woah woah woah. Those are some really strong words and apparently you have some underlying feelings that keep getting side stepped.

Maybe I'm oblivious to the underground rumblings but from that statement its obvious there are some going down.

That or there's some major mud slinging going on trying to pit a lot of people against each other.

I hope that no one is playing the he said she said, he doesn't like you what do you think of that kinda game going on.

Maybe this whole drag race thing needs to be put aside and if some things need to be gotten out in the open it get taken care of.

Obviously there's someone who feels like their disliked and I'd like to know the who, what, where, and most obviously the why of all this.

I find it hard to believe that some drag race rules have people thinking that they are disliked.

There's no one on this board that I hate, very very very few I dislike, and a couple I don't always see eye to eye with. Never hate.

Hehe, I was just joking..... But there is an underlining meaning to that statement, Billy wanted to know what Eric was building, why? Either to tell him that his bike isnt a threat, or to be able to change the rules to get rid of him.

As a competitor I want people that are fast enough to race against open class machines to do exactly that. I'm obviously not benefiting myself any by giving people the ability and probability of going from a class below where I would be to where I do have to race, just another chance for me to get picked off in the eliminations. When I stated earlier that the rules should not benefit anyone the point I was trying to make was that it should be equally difficult and a pain in the ass for everyone. Ya know, sorta like an equal opportunity offender. I'm not singling out anyone. If your Corey, Andrea, or Viper, I already know they can. Anyone else that can, needs to too.

I understand your oppinion, and the fact that it is not in your best interest to race the 370 trikes, Just like us, the 370 trikes are competition for our class too. You are argueing that if they are fast enough then they should be in the open class, WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE??? Between Viper and Eric, or Andrea and Tecatez? You are not being fair to those you bump and you open up the next person in line to win. Do you think its fair to run 300bb, 330 bb 350bb or 370 trikes against trikes with 500-900cc? In some cases the engines are 2 times bigger. You are in the open class, those of us who are argueing are in the modified class, why should you and your minority of people (who happen to be in power) with the same way of thinking, have their oppinions count and 80% of the mod class feel that we should take the rule out.
I know, if they are faster they should race in the open, let compromise then, Run the open class first and if anyone who belongs in Mod class wins, then he or she cant race the mod class. Because if you bump them and they have no chance of winning, then you have decided their fate and there is nothing they could do. NOT FAIR.
Lets say you bump Corey and Andrea, Viper and Eric.... Lets say, they lose every round in the open and get slaughtered.... WHY? Because half of the stock 500 trikes decided to buy a drag pipe or got their engines ported. The mod class is over and now those mod class bikes have spent lots of money just to be crapped on by the tech.

I'm not running the drags, but my suggestion is since this has become such a big deal, is to just make it where the majority of the machines that are open class speeds, have to race in the open class by the way the rules are written and then there wont be any wiggle room.
This sure is an awful lot of trouble for what amounts to nothing being gained by anyone.

If I understand this correctly... You want to leave the rules as stated, bump all people the officials think are open class material and the officials would get their way..... And you are not even sure you will be attending Trikefest.

THIS WOULD BE SOOOO SIMPLE TO END, JUST CHANGE THE TECH RULE, AND 80% OF MODIFIED MACHINES WILL BE HAPPY. AND THE 2 OR 3 PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DICTATE THE OUT COME OF THE RACE WILL BE THE ONLY ONES UPSET.

[tecat-z]

Wow, this is getting exciting! But in fairness, i feel that having 3 techs would satisfy all people entering into the event. i would welcome Cory as top tech. But also have Raffa and Jason Hall as the 2nd and 3rd tech. There probably isn't a smarter bunch of people to look over all bikes and decide which bike fits where. These 3 people have big time knowledge! They can't play favorites to any one person, since if there was a discrepency a vote would have final say so. Class structure just needs to be ironed out, and i'm sure it will. Bottom line, there can be only one winner per class, so let's just have fun racing and afterwords talk about it over some beers. i have absolutely no say so in this, and that's fine. There's no money won or lost for me or anyone else i know of. Let's make this as entertaining as we can for ALL, racers and spactators and have FUN!!!!! Last years drags were awesome and i thought run well. Derrick did a great job calling up racers and keeping the line moving. Hall, Raffa and Sprock as techs, if they would agree, now that's fair.

[brapp]

if it wer eup to me any extended lenght swinger and anythgin larger than a cactory over bore be coincidered mod but then again i am runnign the exact same thign i did last year just a few monor tweaksto hopefully makeit better. the grudge matches are soem fo the best parts.

[Billy Golightly]

Billy wanted to know what Eric was building, why? Either to tell him that his bike isnt a threat, or to be able to change the rules to get rid of him.

I understand your oppinion, and the fact that it is not in your best interest to race the 370 trikes,

You are in the open class, those of us who are argueing are in the modified class, why should you and your minority of people (who happen to be in power) with the same way of thinking, have their oppinions count and 80% of the mod class feel that we should take the rule out.

If I understand this correctly... You want to leave the rules as stated, bump all people the officials think are open class material and the officials would get their way..... And you are not even sure you will be attending Trikefest.

THIS WOULD BE SOOOO SIMPLE TO END, JUST CHANGE THE TECH RULE, AND 80% OF MODIFIED MACHINES WILL BE HAPPY. AND THE 2 OR 3 PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DICTATE THE OUT COME OF THE RACE WILL BE THE ONLY ONES UPSET.

Wow. I'm really disappointed by the way this has turned out.

[TRITecate350]

I dont understand why you are really disappointed?
Sure the first quote I am assuming that was the reason you were asking the question, please correct me if I am wrong.

2nd quote? I was merely letting you know I understand what you are saying...did you not say that?

3rd quote, Hmmmm, Looks like a lot of good points to me, why not rebuke them if you feel i am wrong. Looks like I am exactly right, Louis, Raffa and Billy are the only ones really supporting the tech rule..... You and Raffa definatly have the power.

4th quote, I asked you in chat if you were going to trikefest, you told me you were not sure, the rest of the quote is pretty much 100% correct as well.

5th quote, I am just trying to make it clear what you need to do to make things right.

That is kinda cowardly just saying how dissappointed you are and bring up a whole bunch of my qoutes, if you have a problem why not you call me out on it.

[dizasterzrfun69]

I think you guys should really think about this. Maybe a (1).modded class for the guys with coolheads, aftermarket Inframe pipes, ported engines, over sized carbs, No big bore Cylinders of any kind, Stock sleeve & pump gas. Then have a (2).Pro-Mod class for the engines with big bore cylinders, aftermarket cylinders, out of frame pipes & race gas no alky. (3). Open class for all the CRAZY stuff.

AMEN

[atctim]

Don't wanna stir the pot - just offer up something here to be chewed on:

Why not just leave things as they are. If the really fast mods in the mod class are outclassing everyone else in the class - big deal - so be it. If you are not as fast as them - build a faster mod bike. And leave the open class just that.I plan on running my 500 MX bike in the open class and guess what? I smell smoked CR!! I'll get my ass handed to me in a hat - big deal. I say no class bumping