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    Ring clearances ???

    As some have read the local machine shop fooled up my 250r air fooler cylinder by boring it too much. They got a used cylinder and bored it to fit my 72 mm piston. Now I have no idea on how much clearances their has to be and have no way of checking it really. I just put a ring in my replacement cylinder and it seems to almost close up the ring all together. I could get about 2 sheets of paper between the ends of the ring.
    Now they gave me back my old cylinder aswell and it almost has 1/8 inch between the ring ends with a ring in the cylinder.

    Which one is correct? Thxs.
    1986 ATC 250r
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    didn't you get any paperwork with your piston kit? if not go to there website ,, its only a few thousandths so you need to be sure,,

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    Ya I just turned the place upside down and I am guessing the machine shop forgot to give the instructions back.
    1986 ATC 250r
    1985 ATC 250r
    1985 X2 ATC 70's
    1985 XL 80

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    Your ring endgap according to the manual should be .2mm-.4mm

    And piston to cylinder should be .060mm-.095mm

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    Well that sounds about right then. I dont know which way the arrow should point on the piston. Towards the card or exhaust?
    1986 ATC 250r
    1985 ATC 250r
    1985 X2 ATC 70's
    1985 XL 80

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    To the front of the engine (Exhaust)

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    Thxs man. I'm gonna go put it together then.
    1986 ATC 250r
    1985 ATC 250r
    1985 X2 ATC 70's
    1985 XL 80

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    Make sure while assembling you use some 2 stroke oil to lube the piston pin and pinbore, rod bearings, and piston/piston rings so it dosnt start dry!

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    I used 10w40. Just done that, but its supper time so I cant put the cylinder on until after supper.
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    1985 XL 80

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    i don't see where you listed the brand of piston you have,,, but quoting specs out of the manual DOES NOT apply to a aftermarket piston,, or rings,,,
    is it a cast or forged piston? honda specs do not apply to wiseco or anyother brand ,,, they all have their own specs..................

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    Wiesco calls for .004 for every inch of bore

    So the 250R s are about .010'' ring endgap or .25mm which is still within the manuals spec sheet

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