pre mix oil ??????????

**SCEADU** · 03-09-2008, 09:58 PM

What is everyone using for premix? What is the thoughts of Clotz ?

**maggiesboy** · 03-09-2008, 10:51 PM

Klotz has many different premix oils. I was running Blendzall Castor until I forgot to shake my fuel before a 20 degree ride and hurt my engine. ( castors will seperate from fuels at temps below 40 degrees). After the rebuild, I started using Motul 800. I have run it at 32:1 in the boys KFX 80 for a long time and at 40:1 in the little racer LT50. The Z really likes it. The boys quads have shown very little wear at normal service intervals.

This is just my .02...... You can't go wrong with the classic Golden Spectro, or Bel-Ray HR-1, and like oils.

**tecat-z** · 03-09-2008, 10:51 PM

Many opinions on this subject, but Yamalube R is some of the best premix oil availiable, at any price. I have used it exclusively in all of my machines for close to 20 years. Only now have i switched to a full synthetic oil for my Tecate. But i run 40:1 and quality fuel in it. All my others still get 32:1 Yamalube R.

**maggiesboy** · 03-09-2008, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by tecat-z

Many opinions on this subject, but Yamalube R is some of the best premix oil availiable, at any price. I have used it exclusively in all of my machines for close to 20 years. Only now have i switched to a full synthetic oil for my Tecate. But i run 40:1 and quality fuel in it. All my others still get 32:1 Yamalube R.

There is a cart engine builder here in Renton, Wa. He swears by Yamalube 2-R. It is the tackiest stuff out there according to him. He has alot of hardware on his shop walls, and many cases of 2-R to support his case as well

**81Rmachine** · 03-09-2008, 11:22 PM

BEL-RAY is some good stuff. I just pulled the engine out of my three wheeler for a frame swap and decided to take a peak inside the engine i've been runnin on Bel Ray. Clean as a whistle and virtually no cylinder scuffing. I would definately recommend Bel-Ray or Amsoil.

**Erics350x** · 03-09-2008, 11:45 PM

As long as its a good name oil like any mentioned above you'll be fine. I like the smell of Klotz better but other than that the are all good. Some have better qualities like no smoke, heck you can even get some that smell like strawberries.
I'd check out the manufactures web sites.

**ccdhowell** · 03-09-2008, 11:45 PM

I like Bel-Ray H1R at 32:1 in my Tecate

I've also run Neo Big Red at 50:1 and really like it, seems great, but is very hard to find so I now use the Bel-Ray.

I'd say any modern synthetic would serve well.

Chris

**SCEADU** · 03-10-2008, 12:39 AM

I appreciate the responses fellas. I just bought an 88R as this is my first 2 stroke other than the oil injected sleds I have owned this is the first pre-mix ride I have ever had. The guy I got it off of swore by Klotz and ran it @50:1. Thing is he told me that you have to scream it or it will load up and foul plugs. Now I am just getting back into riding after a 20 year hiatis and I remember some of the guys I used to ride with that had 2 strokes did more putting around than I did on my 200x back then and they only had to change the plug every couple of rides. I have been on 2 2 hour rides and I have gone through 3 plugs. I know I am getting old and slow but I feel that I still was hitting it hard. The other thing is I am haveing toruble getting it to Idle correctly.

**surferdave71** · 03-10-2008, 12:48 AM

i have an bone stock 86 atc 250r and been running the honda hp2 synthetic racing oil at 32:1 for quite a while and have had no problems but some people were suggesting running 50:1, to me that sounds crazy, but what do you guys think?

**RID3R** · 03-10-2008, 01:02 AM

3 plugs in (2) 2 hour rides is a bit much, I would look into that. About the oil I use Bel Ray..

**overdressed1** · 03-10-2008, 03:52 AM

I use Maxima CASTOR 927 in my Tri Z at 40:1.
Clean as a whistle inside.
Haven't changed the plug in six + months.

**cr480r** · 03-10-2008, 04:15 AM

I run Klotz Benol in non-pv machines... early t3, cr480, cr500, lt250, etc... and I run klotz supertechniplate in my KIPS equipped machines.... Always 32:1... For a long time I used to run Maxima SuperM and Castor927 with great results, but nowdays I am hooked on the smell of Klotz...

**The Goat** · 03-10-2008, 04:52 AM

that banana smell is hard to beat..it's also very low smoke for 32:1.

**Tri-ZNate** · 03-10-2008, 05:08 AM

Amsoil Dominator at 40:1 in the tri-z. No scoring and minimal carbon buildup. Last time I changed a plug was when i was rejetting the old carb, and that was about 3 months ago (jetted rich as well).

I plan on using klotz benol once it warms up however

**money89tractors** · 03-10-2008, 07:07 AM

Originally Posted by SCEADU

I just bought an 88R as this is my first 2 stroke .

88?! are you sure about that?

-Phil

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