Should Bush be charged with crimes?

[bigpimpin]

Exxon/Mobil is from Texas how many people do you think Bush is associated with in XOM? Because they don't hang around me or you or ride 20+ year old atc's. they go to Gala's and fund raisers for the rich

[The Goat]

lol...is this the time to mention that i use the word summer as a verb. well...did last year.

[bigpimpin]

lol...is this the time to mention that i use the word summer as a verb. well...did last year.

didn't get this one

[bigpimpin]

no actually.

take the housing market for example...it rises and falls.

in 1945, if you bought a house, your house wouldn't be worth what you paid for it again until the mid 1970s. people were fine with that. why...because you live in a *Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited**E dited* house. it is a need...you need a place to live.

the housing market didn't begin it's freak rise until the early 90s...it was due to fall. it's a self correction thing.

as for the price of fuel. UOE realized they could sell oil for basically any price that they wished...and people would still buy it. It would be ignorant on their part not to raise the price.

perhaps you would like this current "recession" explained...same situation...it goes up...it goes down. the end. anyone who thinks otherwise is ignoring both history...and fact. granted, in economics, no previous historical occurrence can dictate the future, but looking at it over time...it goes up, it goes down.

perhaps you would like to argue the start of the iraqi war. were there WMDs? well...we sold em to the country...and they weren't all used. so...yeah, unless they were destroyed, which they weren't, as saddam was THE richest man in the world. with over 300 TRILLION...yes...trillion in oil assets. No point in selling weapons for a pittance. So...if they were there...and they weren't used (and no man would destroy the only means he has to defend his country) it would logically mean that they were either sold...or they haven't been found yet.

And even if they wouldn't have said...we're going over there to look for WMDs...even if they would have said, "hey, we want to drop a democracy in the middle east...and we need a trial specimen. we're using iraq...so piss off." at the time that the invasion began, nearly 80% of america would have been FINE with that.

staying with economics though, blaming bush for a poor economy...would be like blaming the weatherman for bad weather.

It just so happens that BAC bought out Country wide and is coincidently involved with the purchasing of Bear Sterns on cents on the dollar?

[bigpimpin]

and it just so happens

"Prescott Sheldon Bush (May 15, 1895 – October 8, 1972) was a United States Senator from Connecticut and a Wall Street executive banker with Brown Brothers Harriman. He was the father of former President of the United States George H. W. Bush and the grandfather of current President George W. Bush."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush


and it just so happens

"On July 23, 2007, the BBC Radio 4 series Document reported on the alleged Business Plot and the archives from the McCormack-Dickstein Committee hearings. The program mentioned Bush's directorship of the Hamburg-America Line, a company that the committee investigated for Nazi propaganda activities, and the 1933 attempt, allegedly led by Gerald MacGuire, to stage a military coup against President Franklin D. Roosevelt aimed at forcing Roosevelt to resign (or, failing that, to assassinate him) and at installing a fascist dictatorship in the United States."


Roosevelt signed the declaration for WWI


and it just so happens Samuel P. Bush


"Just two years later, in 1901 he returned to Columbus to be General Manager of Buckeye Steel Castings Company, which manufactured railway parts. The company was run by Frank Rockefeller, the brother of oil magnate John D. Rockefeller, and among its clients were the railroads controlled by E. H. Harriman. The Bush and Harriman families would be closely associated at least until the end of World War II. In 1908 Rockefeller retired and Bush became President of Buckeye, a position he would hold until 1927, becoming one of the top industrialists of his generation."

"In the spring of 1918, banker Bernard Baruch was asked to reorganize the War Industries Board as the U.S. prepared to enter World War I, and placed several prominent businessmen to key posts. Bush became chief of the Ordnance, Small Arms, and Ammunition Section, with national responsibility for government assistance to and relations with munitions companies"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Prescott_Bush

[The Goat]

I "summered" in the bars and by the pool last year. it's a retarded rich comment...too bad i'm poor. lol.

here's a liberal joke for you. John kerry married the heiress to heinz ketchup...what does that mean?

















It means he has to smack her on the bottom or stick something in her neck to make her come.

mods...by all means delete that one if it goes too far. My professor told me that one the other day.

[The Goat]

and it just so happens

Prescott Sheldon Bush (May 15, 1895 – October 8, 1972) was a United States Senator from Connecticut and a Wall Street executive banker with Brown Brothers Harriman. He was the father of former President of the United States George H. W. Bush and the grandfather of current President George W. Bush.

find me a president who was completely morally upright.

I want clinton back...and if he was able to run I would predict the highest win margin in history.

[bigpimpin]

i do not care for anyone running but i actually think Hillary would be "best for the people." they all have an agenda

[bigpimpin]

here is another freebe for everyone


"All U.S. presidents since 1989 have been Yale graduates, namely George H. W. Bush, Bill Clinton (who attended the University's Law School along with his wife, New York Senator Hillary Clinton), and George W. Bush. Vice President Dick Cheney attended Yale, although he did not graduate. Many of the 2004 presidential candidates attended Yale: Bush, John Kerry, Howard Dean, and Joe Lieberman.

Other Yale-educated presidents were William Howard Taft (B.A.) and Gerald Ford (LL.B). Alumni also include several Supreme Court justices, including current Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yale#Notable_alumni

[84honda200s]

find me a president who was completely morally upright.

I want clinton back...and if he was able to run I would predict the highest win margin in history.

i agree...clinton was da best in years. id vote for him hand down. i think he did a great job for us. only if he kept willie in his pants. not that i think its anyones business what he did/does on his own time. people need to learn to butt out of others lives .



oooo and yes bush should be charged. we are at war cuz he had a "hunch" (as i like to call it) that they had weapons of mass destruction. i honestly think he didnt have jack for proof that they did. he just wanted to impress daddy by beating up on a country like his daddy did.. ooooo and not to mention he is a oil man and ill bet he is getting some kinda money out of it. isnt there a federal oil reserve for when we run out or oil prices go up drastically ? (i dont really know thats why im asking)




blllaaaaaa ill be happy once he out of office. i wouldnt vote for him to be the head night janitor manager at a exxon gas station in the middle of the desert !!!!

[bigpimpin]

if you short the US dollar, oil will go up as the dollar buys less. the barrel of oil gets traded in US dollars around the world. the barrel was $20.00 a barrel when Bush took office it is now @ $116

http://www.nymex.com/index.aspx

it is all a bunch of BS and is purposely done so certain groups can make alot of money and should not be allowed

[dreadhed]

Hillary would be "best for the people." they all have an agenda

LMAO Really she does not have agenda? Be careful not to look to far past you one sided political views....you might see some truth

[bigpimpin]

what is one sided about it? everything i stated was done with documented links

[dreadhed]

Oops I misread you post. I really didn't check you links out to much. I thought you said Hillary had no agenda. Hillary is not for the people at all. Really though a Clinton is no better than a Bush. They are both pretty much the same, they want to take away our rights. People need to quit looking at it from a left or right point of view. Most all of them are bastards, but it's the peoples fault for not doing some thing about it. Most people don't really care as long as all seems normal.

As far the economy going down hill, it has been a long time coming. Our banking system is a scam & has been for a long time.

Maybe another question for your post should Hillary & Bill be charge with any crimes? I can come with all kinds of reasons all three of them suck.

[The Goat]

first thing you should learn is to consider the reliability of your sources. hell, if I was debating you, I could tear you apart just for mentioning wikipedia.

also...your signature does you little credit.

i must agree with dreadhed. the extremists...be them either far right or left are the scary individuals, for those individuals are the ones who believe so blindly that their actions are controlled by the thoughts and feelings of others.

the only thing worse than a man who believes nothing he hears...is a man who believes everything.

Now I'm not calling bigpimpin an extremist...and he's actually presented all of his points very well...(except for hillary not having an agenda...that's just laughable). But we all need to lighten up.

All of the candidates are garbage. Rudy was the one man whom I would trust as a president. Why? Because on September 11th...I remember seeing him walking the streets of NY. He is a man who keeps his cool, can think on his feet, and actually has a mind capable of existing outside of academia. Instead...we have three worthless candidates.

I'd like a new option this year when voting...the option to vote *None of the above