200 honda guys i need some info

[i58829]

Ok so it looks like i'm going to be looking for a 200 to rob the motor for an auto X project, of course i will be buying one that dirt cheap and looks like it went through a war. What do i want? I have no use for a starter, so if there a rigid 200 with just kick (i dont think any are kick) or pull start. Anything i should look for outside of it running, as far as specific years, codes (E, S, or ES)? It's gonna be in an 83/4 frame and will basically be a rider for my friends/putting around the yard machine, thanks in advance, TC...

[Yamada]

- 84 Honda Big red 200ES are shaft driven, the engine is no use for you.
- 82-83 Honda Big red 200E have got a electric starter and a high low sub-tranny. From what i've read if you make a dent on the frame's downtube the engine will bolt into a 200x, but as you stated, you have no use for a electric starter.
- 84-85 Honda 200M is a 200s engine with the electric starter
- Honda 200s, 83 200 and 185 and 185s engine only have a pull starter and are 99% bolt-on into a 200x frame.
If i'm wrong please someone correct me.

[i58829]

Good to know, thanks again because i dont want to modify the machine at all so it can become a clean 200X someday. Sounds like i'll be looking into the S then, any chance if i found an E cheap i could just stick a billit block off on the starter plate and not have to on anything? I was thinking the starter is on the front of the motors but i really dont have a clue, TC...

[Russell 350X]

81-83 ATC200 motors, All ATC200S motors, and the 185/S will fit into a 200X frame.

[y2kane]

I have a 200 motor and trike but your too far away from me.

[WLL]

i sugest a pull-start would be best on your auto-x

[i58829]

So i guess i'm back to the 200S then. Now all i gotta do is find one that looks like it was in a war. Thanks for all the help, are there any differences or issues with the 200S i should be aware of? Like i said i want one dirt cheap thats beat up so i'd like to know what motor issues there may be...

[DeePa]

200s is the way to go. 85 and 86 motors are 5 up shift pattern, 84's are 5 down shift pattern

I have a 200s motor thats still original bore/piston and runs like a champ even though it only has 100 pounds of compression where it should have 140-160ish.

THey can be found cheap, especially if you just want to tear it apart and rebuid it up right.

Mike

[84honda200s]

lol you dont need a "war" engine. ive seen clean ones go for 150.00. yea the 200s is probably your best bet. i used a 185s at first then went to a built 200s motor. cant go wrong with either one.

[i58829]

Haha well a 250.00 or less runner is what i'd prefer, i dont really want to rebuild it or anything just wash/paint it and stuff it in the other frame.

the shifter info is a big help i dont know if i could figure out how to shift up, down. So it looks like 85/6 for me.

Are you guys running the wiring/electronics from the X or the S on your builds? Ok i think i'm done for now...

[84honda200s]

im running a 200s harness.

[lndy650]

i have done this about 4 times and i have used both harness's. i remember the top motor mount being different though???

[Erics350x]

why dont you just find a X motor?

[lndy650]

some prefer the clutchless shifting... its nice if you putt around a lot

[WLL]

id use the bottom end of the 200s and the 200x top cam & head if i was gona build an auto x