Tri-z 500?

[rman]

Sorry, there's no way a 450 4 stroker is going to keep up with a 500 2 stroke. It ain't gonna happen.

think again , you might as well say goodbye to 2stroke its a thing of the past

[fabiodriven]

Your Mojave would be a thing of the past if you ever lined up against my 250, nevermind the 500. I'm pretty sure either one of 'em would take care of your 450 as well, definately the 500. I've had no problems smokin Z400's with just my 250. If you think 2 strokes are a thing of the past, you're on the wrong site.

[rman]

Your Mojave would be a thing of the past if you ever lined up against my 250, nevermind the 500. I'm pretty sure either one of 'em would take care of your 450 as well, definately the 500. I've had no problems smokin Z400's with just my 250. If you think 2 strokes are a thing of the past, you're on the wrong site.

1. the mojave isnt mine it is our sons

2. my 450 has smoked a many of 2 strokes including 500's

3. anytime you want to run that 250 against my 450 I live in NC

4. I have been a member of this site much longer then you know and dont care to not be a member of it actually I helped plan the first trikefest ever and happen too love 2strokes and own three of them as of right now thankyou

[fabiodriven]

Sorry, Rman. I should've thought before I shot my mouth off- I just get all riled up sometimes.

[NOS_350X]

Wow yall shure are funny

This isnt the 80's any more, These 450's scream, The 450's arnt the old xr's of years past, Thes are screaming valve opening machines. They rev higher, and faster than the 2 strokes.

Look The AMA realized this also, They have now as of the last month taken away the "double displacement rule" This letting 250 2 strokes run with the 250f's. Look at the numbers they arnt that far off, And with the four strokes haveing more tractable power they are far superior.

A decent built 450 will run right next to the 500's.

[Bad Karma]

Good read about 2-stroke vs. 4-stroke and the AMA's role here: http://twostrokemilitia.jfn3.com/

[tecat-z]

Great stuff, and the Service Honda AF 500R David Bailey edition................ WOW. What an awesome looking bike. I will always make it a point to have fast 2 strokes. I love them. Will we ever see the next revolution in 2 stroke technology, probably at some point. When the sport of motocross is in great danger of going away due to cost and noise? Yep, sometime around then. Give it 10-12 years for them to realize the losses they have created.

[fabiodriven]

That's a good article, Karma. Although I don't race I can see the points being made here. It is definately alot easier for an average joe like me to maintain and repair a fast two-stroke than it would be to try and keep a 4-stroker going. If I could just go out to my garage and fire up my brand new super duty, hook up my 25 foot enclosed trailer, and load my 4 month old, independant rear suspension, 8,000 dollar quad to take it to the dealer at $85 bucks an hour, maybe I would do that. To be honest, I'm alot happier to jumpstart my 87 F-350, hook up my $250 open trailer, and roll my (fairly)mint 20+ year old trike out of my collapsing shed to ride just as fast as anybody else! (No offense to anyone more fortunate than myself)

[cr480r]

2. my 450 has smoked a many of 2 strokes including 500's

you obviously did not race on sand.... or else you have dumped $$$ into the 450... 500's are outdated machines in many ways... but power is still power...

[sandpuppi101]

LOL,I just gotta state my opinion on this thread.Your kinda comparing apple's to orange's in a sence.1st point I'd like to make is that I am a good rider ,weather it be on a track ,drag,trail,ice whatever,and I've ridden alot of hot set-up's from the 450's 500's and 600,balls out ,and I believe other's can vouch for my riding skills,and I have too say that the 500 is in a league of it's own .Your looking at a totally different burst on any pinger,and a 500 is explosive in many situation's,tire's go to spinning and it's finding the happy medium ,to where you can perform with it.Now a 450 or even a 600 are powerful and fast also,but don't have that explosive feeling that the 500 would offer.Instead ,the thumper's give torque,and there again it's finding a happy medium with the torque.Gearing is also a huge set-up when you run these machine's also.As all you guy's know there's ton's of variable's that could change the performance in any machine,but I ain't ready to say that a 450 thumper is ready any time soon to be spanking a finely tuned 500 pinger.I don't miss the vibration from the pinger 500 though,but that's another conversation by itself.

[rman]

you obviously did not race on sand.... or else you have dumped $$$ into the 450... 500's are outdated machines in many ways... but power is still power...

nope obviously not seeing I live in north carolina like many have said it depends on what riding your doing and I ride mx and woods riding. and yes there is many variables in it including the rider. and yes I have put some money in the 450 but not anymore then most spend on there 2strokes

[Charles Ford]

has anyone looked into putting a YZ500 top end on a triz 250 bottom.?? if I had the parts I would check into it.?? I know two guys that are good with crazy stuff like that. I'm picking up a blaster this week and plan on putting a YZ490 motor into. if anyone knows someone with a yz490 motor, exhaust , carb,??
please let me know.
charliekat@oh.rr.com

[Bryan Raffa]

has anyone looked into putting a YZ500 top end on a triz 250 bottom.?? if I had the parts I would check into it.?? I know two guys that are good with crazy stuff like that. I'm picking up a blaster this week and plan on putting a YZ490 motor into. if anyone knows someone with a yz490 motor, exhaust , carb,??
please let me know.
charliekat@oh.rr.com

[twinblasters]

500 & 600cc snowmobile jugs look exactly like banshee jugs im looking into building an oddball hybrid if the 600cc jugs will slip on a banshee trans & will slip into my tri-z frame. sweeeeet

[The Goat]

louis I know I can't ride one...I know I can't ride.

But I STILL think that a 500cc 2stroke trike would be the tits for the long long gravel roads around here.

Now I won't lie... just a gsxr600 was enough to make me swear never again the first time I rode one... but going fast for a long time is what I like...and a 500cc 2 stroke is what it would be for off road