Honda's thoughts on the 1981 ATC250R

[Hoosier_Daddy]

4 tecates on ebay right now, 1 quad, 3 trikes, 1 not running...

links? I want to see the links to those auctions. I can't find them.

ok, another thing is people get the bike and want to make sure every thing is good by rebuilding the whole motor running or not... people buy tecate's, rebuild them only to have them blow up after a month of use... they where ment to do one thing, race and that was about it... honda was able to make a race bike compatible for other riding options...

You can't be serious.

[factoryX]

links? I want to see the links to those auctions. I can't find them.

You can't be serious.

http://motors.shop.ebay.com/_ATVs__t...1QQ_pcatsZ6000

http://motors.shop.ebay.com/Motorcyc...0QQ_pcatsZ6000

even found another one...

how is this bs? people riding the snot out of something 22 years but still runs great? you would not want to check every thing out or put new parts on?
is this not what you are supposed to do when rebuilding a 20 year old bike?

[Hoosier_Daddy]

http://motors.shop.ebay.com/_ATVs__t...1QQ_pcatsZ6000

http://motors.shop.ebay.com/Motorcyc...0QQ_pcatsZ6000

even found another one...

how is this bs? people riding the snot out of something 22 years but still runs great? you would not want to check every thing out or put new parts on?
is this not what you are supposed to do when rebuilding a 20 year old bike?

You said you had 3 or 4 that didn't run on ebay. The link you just posted had ONE Tecate that doesn't run (and it's beat all to hell with mismatched parts, no wonder?) and the rest all say "runs great". So where are all there junk non-runners?

[Hoosier_Daddy]

I see Honda guys constantly ragging Tecates about reliability and the Hondas might be more reliable in general but you guys stretch it out so far that it is unrealistic. You guys act like you can't drive a Tecate off the showroom without it blowing an engine half way down the trail. that is ridiculous. Tecates held together long enough to win tons of races.

Check out these links. In the last video, look closely at the race, out in front, all you see is a sea of green. The first 2 videos speak for themselves. You Honda guys keep riding that dependabilty excuse and the Tecates will just keep winning races.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdH1FZZnaLQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY1nk-G_kWk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvGrJ...eature=related

[factoryX]

I said the 4 bikes with one not running... I am done, if you have trouble reading then there is no reason for this...

[factoryX]

read this...

http://www.quadpit.com/mags/1986/sto...hootout02.html

[scooterroo]

ok well your showing the 86's, this thread is about the 81 atc 250r. here is a dirtwheels article about the 84's. basically the same atc seeing is how it is air cooled, and honda has had a few years to iron out the wrinkles on their machine, and the first year t3. the answer is all that needs to be said about the AIRFOOLER r's vs. the t3. you guys can go on crying and whining about this one being more dependable, and that ones inferior, and 20 years old this ones crap, or whatever. everyone has their opinions, their favorites, no one is the same. this article puts it in plain english so i think everyone should be able to read it, an r, not a liquid 86, the final year of the bike when they finally got it right and the first year t3.

geeeeeeeeeez, all this arguement over one persons comment on the thread. lol, and oops i think i was the one who started this. lol, LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL!!!

[hadar]

I would like to point out that the 81 cr250 was liquid cooled. Honda just choose to go with the aircooled engines in the early three wheelers. They had the technology but didn't want to use it for some reason. I like both kawi and honda trikes, each has it's own charm.

[Hoosier_Daddy]

I said the 4 bikes with one not running... I am done, if you have trouble reading then there is no reason for this...

No, you've been going on about how you can find broke down Tecates all day long but all the Hondas are running. Then you post up a link that has several great running Tecates and one junker. I asked you to point me toward all those "grenaded" Tecates and I still have yet to see links to them.

And the article you posted below your post, the big 3 shootout, I have read that article many times, and the Tecate wins the shootout. So, are you conceding that the Tecate is the best race bike?

[Hoosier_Daddy]

ok well your showing the 86's, this thread is about the 81 atc 250r. here is a dirtwheels article about the 84's. basically the same atc seeing is how it is air cooled, and honda has had a few years to iron out the wrinkles on their machine, and the first year t3. the answer is all that needs to be said about the AIRFOOLER r's vs. the t3. you guys can go on crying and whining about this one being more dependable, and that ones inferior, and 20 years old this ones crap, or whatever. everyone has their opinions, their favorites, no one is the same. this article puts it in plain english so i think everyone should be able to read it, an r, not a liquid 86, the final year of the bike when they finally got it right and the first year t3.

geeeeeeeeeez, all this arguement over one persons comment on the thread. lol, and oops i think i was the one who started this. lol, LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL!!!

Well, the Honda guys outnumber Kawi guys 10 to 1 and all they do is get together to gang up and talk about Hondas reliability and stretch how bad Kawasakis reliabilty is. I've been a Kawi guy forever and I've been dealing with this forever. After a while it just gets old, it's just propaganda and in the end I always end up finding out that the Kawi haters have never even owned a Kawi and they are going by hear-say. I love all the 3 wheelers. they all have something special about them. But, it gets so tired hearing all the Honda hype.

The Tecate was made with one purpose in mind, racing. It wasn't made to take a beating for 20 years and not need rebuilt. And I got news for those Honda guys, the 250R isn't going to last 20 years witout needing rebuilt either.

Sorry, if I sound confrontational, but this is as bad as the old Chevy vs. Ford argument. And some of the things being said and made up gets ridiculous. So, I can't help but get caught up in it. I appologize to anybody who may be offended. I just love my Kawi's and feel the need to defend them. Is that so wrong?

[Dammit!]

Sorry, if I sound confrontational, but this is as bad as the old Chevy vs. Ford argument.

Then stop contributing to it. You sound just as bad as the Honda people.

I don't give two s**ts what people ride. The bottom line is the big three were seperated by hairs in their final incarnations. The T3 had a couple more horsepower than the R. The R had a couple more than the Z. The R had the best suspension. The Z had the best ergonomics. The T3 had a powervalve. Blah blah blah they were so close a couple of very minor mods would close any gap that existed and nobody that raced them left them stock anyway so it's all moot.

[hublake]

Wow!!! One of the more enlightening threads.

[Hoosier_Daddy]

Then stop contributing to it. You sound just as bad as the Honda people.

Because I have to sit here and defend Kawasaki against ridiculous untrue allegations?

[Hoosier_Daddy]

I won't continue to argue about this because, well, it is kinda childish now that I took time to look at it and the last thing i want to do is make enemies. 3 Wheelers are rare enough as it is. We don't need to bicker amongst ourselves. i hope you all accept my appologies if I came accross as a bit of an ass.

[scooterroo]

ok then im a chevy man!!!!!! f@ck ford!!!