so I have a question about a banshee?

[Mosh]

Banshee haters! blah

I am tired of all the misconceptions about them.
Myth 1( they are unreliable)Horse crap.
the only reason they are unreliable is becuase of the owner not knowing how to set up and maintain it.My wife's shee has 5 years on the top end with 1 re-ring and still pulls 118 psi of compression.Stock compression is 125 to 130 psi...

Myth 2 (no low end power).Horse crap again.
For 5 years I have been saying gear down the frt sprocket to 12 teeth and 2 INTO 1 Pipe!!!!! The same if not More low end than any 4 stroke!

Myth 3(Expensive to build)Crap again...

A piston kit for a shee is still cheaper than any new 4 stroke.Even 2 new pipes are cheaper than any new 4 stroke.
You can completely rework a Banshee motor with new crank and top end for what a top end on a new 4 stroke costs.

The only thing I will agree with, is the suspension on them is inferior,but can be tweaked with a nice set of Works shocks.
2 into1 carbs....Lol.... are good for one thing only.Sucking dirt into your cylinders due to poor fitting intake adapters.
Goat,check out BansheeHQ.com for better/more info on them.Everything 2 stroke.com has a ton of info too.

[SWIGIN]

still couldnt give me one....lol

i raced mx in the past and still play ride on tracks.....banshees are not the best on a track IMO.

maybe for trails or dunes but i would still go another route

my buddy just picked up a mostly stock banshee and he was telling me how fast it is and blah blah blah (like i never rode on or with one before)

well in about 20 drag races in a flat feild maybe 400-500 feet he couldnt touch my 350rx. so we switched bikes then we were tied most of the time so alot of it is rider.

[cr480r]

Myth 2 (no low end power).Horse crap again.
For 5 years I have been saying gear down the frt sprocket to 12 teeth and 2 INTO 1 Pipe!!!!! The same if not More low end than any 4 stroke!

Doesnt the 2-1 pipe make them slow? IMO that defeats the purpose of having a heavy twin cylinder engine...

[SWIGIN]

it adds low end...just like the 1 into 2 carb kit

[tecat-z]

Knowledge and proper maintenance is key. I strongly believe that the banshee engine is one of the most durable engines ever put in an atv. I've had LOTS of friends that have had them over the years, and many friends that still have them. Infact, my buddy that went to TF with us bought his. He bought it new in 01, and the engine has never been opened up. Never. It still runs as strong as ever. As mentioned, they are heavy, and kinda awkward, but they are far from bad bikes. And, all the talk about unrideable power and lightswitches, horsecrap. They are actually pretty smooth and tame with close to stock setups. For the record, i've got a friend who has a 621cc alky cheetah, 130+ h.p. built by RDZ racing in Michigan. No other atv engine design even comes close to staggering #'s like those. If you say their junk, you don't understand them.

[SWIGIN]

Knowledge and proper maintenance is key. I strongly believe that the banshee engine is one of the most durable engines ever put in an atv. I've had LOTS of friends that have had them over the years, and many friends that still have them. Infact, my buddy that went to TF with us bought his. He bought it new in 01, and the engine has never been opened up. Never. It still runs as strong as ever. As mentioned, they are heavy, and kinda awkward, but they are far from bad bikes. And, all the talk about unrideable power and lightswitches, horsecrap. They are actually pretty smooth and tame with close to stock setups. For the record, i've got a friend who has a 621cc alky cheetah, 130+ h.p. built by RDZ racing in Michigan. No other atv engine design even comes close to staggering #'s like those. If you say their junk, you don't understand them.

i wouldnt call them junk but they have no place on a mx track....its all in what you want to do with them

in the 10 years i raced in the 250cc-open A class i never.....never got beat by a banshee

your buddy dont race mx but it must work for what he does with it....every bike has there place

[tecat-z]

I never said, nor did anyone else say their great for tracks. And of course, a trx 250R would destroy a Banshee on a track. Simply stating the truth about the engine, and how diverse it is. Nothing about the obvious shortcomings of the chassis for certain situations. But for general riding, it's more than adequate.

[SWIGIN]

dont take it personal man i just want it to be known they suck on a mx track....no one praiseing them said it, so i did

[Mrs.Mosh]

Actually,last week at the fair races,we saw 2 Banshee's smoking different brands of 450's in 2 different motos.The Banshee's were bone stock.But I would say alot of that is rider.I agree it would not be my first choice for a MX machine,but with the right rider,they can run in the front.
However,for hillclimbing and I mean severe hillclimbing,they are first choice for me.
Heavy in the front,gobs of power, and wheelspin is there when you need it.
2into1 pipes dont slow them down,it just puts the torque curve in a more useable area.They will still run 70+MPH with a 2 into1 pipe on them.

[SWIGIN]

to be fair...pun intended
every fair race iv seen is small and not a ''real'' mx track

it looks fun as hell to do but its not the same thing im talking about and i never said they cant win....that would be stupid

just like your severe hill climing, im talking severe MX i guess

[Mrs.Mosh]

Swigin....
Like I said, the Banshee wouldn't be my first choice for an MX track. But they are a great bike for other areas.

Goat...
What type of riding do you do mostly? I guess that would be the best question to ask.

[SWIGIN]

Swigin....
Like I said, the Banshee wouldn't be my first choice for an MX track. But they are a great bike for other areas.

thats exsactly what i said too....

[Mosh]

still couldnt give me one....lol

i raced mx in the past and still play ride on tracks.....banshees are not the best on a track IMO.

maybe for trails or dunes but i would still go another route

my buddy just picked up a mostly stock banshee and he was telling me how fast it is and blah blah blah (like i never rode on or with one before)

well in about 20 drag races in a flat feild maybe 400-500 feet he couldnt touch my 350rx. so we switched bikes then we were tied most of the time so alot of it is rider.

You must really hate These Banshee's.
That is fine I hate 4 strokes, so everyone has different preferences.

Now as far as your drag races against a shee,with your 350x,that banshee with stock tires in a field would get owned off the line.Now had he had better tires on it,I think your outcome would have been different..Either way sounds like this paticular Banshee was not running well.
For a real comparison,get them both out on the asphalt,then let me know the outcome.

Couldnt give you a Banshee????

Now that aint too bright.Even if someone offered me a machine I did not like,I would at least take it and part it out and make some cash from it.

[SWIGIN]

he had new maxis tires if you must know

am i missing something here?

he ask us what we thought of a banshee....since when does that mean i can only post wonderful things?

i have rode new stock to full mx set up shee's and the one i raced the other week was no different then any other stockish banshee....plus i said rider had something to do with the outcome of the drag race.

no hate for banshee's here....just for the banshee can do no wrong mentality i hear all the time.

i only said they arnt great on a mx track and it seems to be getting blown out of proportion.

i will always stand by that statment. but you are right about the you couldnt give me one thing i said...... i knew as i typed it the second time it didt sound good. i should of said, you couldnt give me one to ride (since i ride mx mostly)

[cr480r]

it adds low end...just like the 1 into 2 carb kit

i know that, My buddy had one and took it off because it made his bike slower.. IMO if you take away the straight line acceleration capabilities(when traction is present) of the banshee you arent left with much...