Alliance Against Urban 4x4s

[LonesomeTriZ]

The ignorance is so overwhelming I simply cannot respond.

http://www.stopurban4x4s.org.uk/index.htm

[Tri-ZNate]

lmao, most of the cars that they call big gas guzzlers are 3 liter engines and smaller. They wouldnt know what to do with a 7.5L

[LonesomeTriZ]

Can they get any more bias?

[SWIGIN]

i know what to do with my built 7.5L ....lol

[LonesomeTriZ]

I guess over there it is okay to tell others what they can and cannot drive.

[UlsterATCFan]

I live just outside London and I'm personally going to buy a 4 litre V8 Range Rover and drive it over the person or persons who started that web site

[300rman]

I live just outside London and I'm personally going to buy a 4 litre V8 Range Rover and drive it over the person or persons who started that web site

lmao i like how a 4.0 liter is considered a "bigger" motor over there.......*Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited* anything less than a 5.0 is plain WIMPY over here.

but the stupid thing is that damn vehicles with much bigger motors get about the same mileage my piddly ass 3.0 ranger gets. BS, the 4.0 ranger does the same as my 3.0, with more power.

[honda_atc200es]

my 4.0 only gets 15

[LonesomeTriZ]

Socialist scum

Did you all see the piant and mud throwing? They are proud of that crap. I cannot see any court (in the south anyway) convisting me if I jumped out and stomped that trugging prick into the ground.

[cr480r]

I dont know dirty enough words to explain how I feel about those guys...

[The Goat]

you know, just so as to not be misinterpreted in other threads...I'm a firm believer in driving whatever the hell you want. friend of mine has an old 80s single cab 454 duelly with stacks. and it's about the funniest thing in the world to drive around in. even if you do measure your fuel in gallons per mile.

but seriously, I feel bad for the guy before me everytime I pull up at the pump. 40 bucks at most for me to fill up...I'm seeing a lot of 100+ stops these days.

me personally, I'd never have a big GAS truck...no point to it to me.

now an oldschool 7.3 early 90s ford...damn those trucks are nice.

[LonesomeTriZ]

I really do not care what people drive. Even if it is a gay ass Pirus. I will not tell them they are wrong as long as they leave me alone. It is funny how they say people will like you better. I have yet to get a dirty look while rolling on my 22.5's

[UlsterATCFan]

lmao i like how a 4.0 liter is considered a "bigger" motor over there.......*Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited* anything less than a 5.0 is plain WIMPY over here.

but the stupid thing is that damn vehicles with much bigger motors get about the same mileage my piddly ass 3.0 ranger gets. BS, the 4.0 ranger does the same as my 3.0, with more power.

Believe me folks, 4 litres is considered HUGE in the UK and probably Europe in general. I've been to the states this year on holiday and I have to say I'm so jealous at all the cool trucks you guys have over there and your fuel is still downright cheap by our standards. A black GMC Acadia is what I'd drive if I lived over there. Another cool thing about the US is the way you call drinks 'beverages'

[Louis Mielke]

Here is a message I sent to them:

Hi there,

While I can agree with a lot of the very good information on your website I must express my opinion on the stop 4x4s initiative. Pleae read fully my message before passing judgement.

I honestly feel this initiative is obnoxious and pointless. I am the owner of two vehicles, one 2006 Toyota Matrix and one 1988 Ford F250 4x4 truck. I'm a service technician by trade so I'm putting 1000+ miles on the road every week. I love my matrix for work, it saves me gas, is comfortable and works well size wise as I travel in and out of the Washington DC area. I totally agree that people should think economically and make wise choices for their work commute. I strongly disagree with the notion that people should be punished for driving larger vehicles. The government should create positive incentive to make responsible choices, not punish those who choose the alternative. Our country is supposed to be a free country correct? How free can America claim to be if our government strong handedly forces decisions on its citizens? The people who drive these large vehicles already pay a premium for doing so because they buy MORE gas which means they pay MORE taxes.

I also on the other hand am an ATV enthusiast as a hobby (something you also probably don't agree with) and I use my 1988 Ford F250 truck (which is well maintained I might add) to pull a trailer so i can go camping and ATV riding. I strongly believe that we can enjoy the earth, protect it AND enjoy off road hobbies. Conservation efforts can provide off roaders with trails and places to persue thier hobbies and protect the enviorment. You'll have to excuse me if I preach a little here myself because there are a lot of people who refuse to even try to understand ATVs and ORVs and would like to see all of them gone permenantly.

This is our hobby, just like bicycling and tennis and rock climbing are others peoples hobbys. I don't start groups to rally against rock climbers because they're erroding the precious rock faces as they climb them. I have yet to join a group to protest the bicyclists who insist on being treated equally on the road but yet they constantly break traffic laws that they are bound too just as motorists are. I think tennis courts are ugly. They should all be shut down because they are an eye sore and I can't stand that constant thwak and shuffle noise in my ears. Most of this is mere satire but I use it to display a point. We all make choices good and bad and we should be free to do such without being pursecuted for them. Alliance Against Urban 4x4s is just that persecution against people who choose to drive these vehicles.

This sort of attitude is unacceptable and I think thats why I can not agree with your initiative.

Thank you for your time.

~ Louis Mielke
Hampstead, MD working in Baltimore and Washington DC

[LonesomeTriZ]

Wow man. I do could not stay calm enough to write such a mature letter.