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    help please, 85 or 86 250r -- which is better?

    I am in the market for a 250r.
    Which bike is better, they look the same, but I hear they have different carburetors that make a huge difference. A little help please
    I see plenty of 85's for sale, but rarely a 86 250r.
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    Depends on which one the person you're asking owns.

    I've seen people say the 85 has more power but nowhere has there ever been numbers to prove that. I think it's BS personally. They have different carbs and the power comes on a little different (the 85 has more of hit where the 86 rolls on a little smoother and revs out better) but I think the actual amount of power you're getting is the same. The motors don't have any signifigant differences. The 85 had very slightly taller tires (more or less the same tire but it was rounder where as the 86 tire had a very flat profile).

    The 86 has a slight amount more rake built into the frame so it handles a little better at high speed.

    I'd suggest getting whichever you find the best deal on. Nothing is stock anymore usually so comparing the small details of their stock traits is pointless.

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    Apprecite it
    Looking at a nice 86 right now
    will let you know If I dont get bought out
    I work nights, and they guy is showing it to people all week
    I can't get down there till the weekend
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    85, cause i said so.

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    Nice bikes! Let me re-phrase that.
    VERY NICE BIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Hope to post mine soon. Going to go look at a 86 tomorrow. Guy is the original owner, stored it for the past 10 years. All stock.

    Been finding lots of bikes for the same price, but all have been torn into or had major motor work done to them. Don't think I could get much better than a bike with little wear and a gunked up carb./ tank. That's easy.
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    86 Rs also had the progressive fork springs in them, the axle and carrier that swap with the quad, and lets not forget the cooler looking headlight shell, inch thicker seat foam and the cool looking gunmetal paint on the engine and calipers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NINJA View Post
    86 Rs also had the progressive fork springs in them, the axle and carrier that swap with the quad, and lets not forget the cooler looking headlight shell, inch thicker seat foam and the cool looking gunmetal paint on the engine and calipers.
    I beg to differ on the headlight. 85 looks cooler and is more functional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edog View Post
    I beg to differ on the headlight. 85 looks cooler and is more functional.
    This coming from a guy with a duckbill on his front fender
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    Quote Originally Posted by edog View Post
    I beg to differ on the headlight. 85 looks cooler and is more functional.
    It's smaller and if memory serves me 10 watts dimmer. How is that more functional?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dammit! View Post
    It's smaller and if memory serves me 10 watts dimmer. How is that more functional?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dammit! View Post
    It's smaller and if memory serves me 10 watts dimmer. How is that more functional?
    It has 2 more provisions to channel air to the radiators.

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    I ride my 86 in 110+ degree deserts. Trust me cooling is not an issue.

    The only real benefit there is to the 85 light is you have the option of a Maier shell instead of OEM. There is no aftermarket shell available for the 86 at this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dammit! View Post
    I ride my 86 in 110+ degree deserts. Trust me cooling is not an issue.

    The only real benefit there is to the 85 light is you have the option of a Maier shell instead of OEM. There is no aftermarket shell available for the 86 at this time.
    I know this. I am just spliting hairs.You can look at it and see that it channels more air. Does it really make that big of a difference?NO

    On that note of the 86 Maier. I am glad I have a couple 86's and 85's NOS headlight bezels.
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    Love it, this is the kind of info I am looking for, sorry stepped away for a while
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    Okay, so this is what I got. Never had one before. Ridden them, but never owned. Any suggestions, advice, or input would be greatly appreciated. It has been stored for 10yrs. Need to clean out the carb and cob webs. But it's from the Original owner, and the pic's are before I could even clean it up.

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    come on, let's hear it. I want your comments on it. Penny for your thoughts!
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