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Thread: tr-z / yz pistons the same??

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    tr-z / yz pistons the same??

    Hi , just joined , all the way from sunny scotland ,anyway , ive just stripped down my 85 tri-z250 , someone has snapped off the bottom half of the piston ,ie it has no skirt ,is it ok to run it like this ?? or would i be able to put in a yz piston ,any help please

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    I always use yz pistons for my tri-z, and you should'nt run it with a broken piston
    *1985 Yamaha Tri-z 360 big bore Ohlins with powervalves, 38-carb, boyesen reeds and pro-circuit exhaust!
    *1985 Honda ATC 350x "stock"
    *1981 Yamaha Tri-moto 175 "stock"
    *1982 Yamaha rz350 with Jolly-moto exhaust
    *2004 Kawasaki sixdirtysix Stuntbike
    *1987 Pontiac Trans-Am
    *1996 Pick-Up

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    Which year yz piston do you use?

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    so the yz piston is ok to use ? without the need to change sleeve etc ??

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    I will most likely be buying a piston for my TRI-Z as well. Some more info on this would be great. Any benefits?
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    Yz 250 has the same piston between 83-87 and that's the one I've been using
    You can also use the top end gasket kit within those years, the only difference is the gasket for the powervalve-cover wich you can throw away!!
    *1985 Yamaha Tri-z 360 big bore Ohlins with powervalves, 38-carb, boyesen reeds and pro-circuit exhaust!
    *1985 Honda ATC 350x "stock"
    *1981 Yamaha Tri-moto 175 "stock"
    *1982 Yamaha rz350 with Jolly-moto exhaust
    *2004 Kawasaki sixdirtysix Stuntbike
    *1987 Pontiac Trans-Am
    *1996 Pick-Up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blown 331 View Post
    I will most likely be buying a piston for my TRI-Z as well. Some more info on this would be great. Any benefits?
    Yes the 83-87 YZ Piston seems to have a tad more umph in the TRI-Z .. i use the PRO-X Brand .. they last longer than the FRI-CO's ..
    "07" DR650 Suzuki Dual Sport

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swamp trike View Post
    Yz 250 has the same piston between 83-87 and that's the one I've been using
    You can also use the top end gasket kit within those years, the only difference is the gasket for the powervalve-cover wich you can throw away!!
    Since the YZ has a powervalve is is possible to use the whole top end?
    I think I read the YZ also has a thinner head gasket.


    Quote Originally Posted by Yamahondaman View Post
    Yes the 83-87 YZ Piston seems to have a tad more umph in the TRI-Z .. i use the PRO-X Brand .. they last longer than the FRI-CO's ..
    I did a search before you replied and some people say you have to use the YZ sleeve, any truth to that? And I read that the YZ pistons don't have the "windows" in the skirt. What is their function and does it matter going to a piston that does not have them?
    My jug is already 1mm over. So are you saying I can just get the next size up 83-87 YZ piston and it will go right in with out any other issues or problems?
    08 Outlaw 525s
    07 CRF70
    04 Harley FLHRCI
    04 TRX90
    03 XR650R
    03 400EX- XR650R engine
    02 XR100R

    01 Banshee
    00 XR50R
    00 XR70R

    99 PW50
    99 JR50
    96,95 Sportsman 400
    95 Xplorer 400
    94 Indy XLT
    87 Trail Boss
    86,86,86,86,86 Scrambler

    86 TRX70 x2
    85 ATC350X
    85,84 ATC250R

    85 Red Tecate
    85 LT50 x2
    84 XR500R
    84,84,84,84,83,82,80,79 ATC70
    82,79 XL500R

    83 ALT50
    79,78,77,77,76 XT/TT500
    76,75,74 XL70
    72,71,71,71 SL70

    72 Harley FX
    72,71,70,70,70,70,70 CT70H
    72 SL100
    70,69 Z50

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    running a yz prox piston in my tri z now...

    no special sleeves or any of that stuff.

    you can swap whole yz cylinders and heads but you need to have the linkage in the clutch cover. there is a thread on here how someone modded the cases and installed the powervalve linkage in the bottom end, and put a yz top end on.

    only one year of the yz top end has the same intake angle as the tri-z...think its the 83 year.
    1986 Tri-z
    1985 250r
    1985 200s
    1985 70[/SIZE]

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    just found and ordered a wiseco tri-z piston for it on evilbay ,got my bore checked ,all fine , surely though it couldnt have been doing the bike much good running it with half a piston ,didnt have anything below the pin .Bike went not too bad though , had a wee bit of a flat spot but once it cleared it seemed fine .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blown 331 View Post
    Since the YZ has a powervalve is is possible to use the whole top end?
    I think I read the YZ also has a thinner head gasket.




    I did a search before you replied and some people say you have to use the YZ sleeve, any truth to that? And I read that the YZ pistons don't have the "windows" in the skirt. What is their function and does it matter going to a piston that does not have them?
    My jug is already 1mm over. So are you saying I can just get the next size up 83-87 YZ piston and it will go right in with out any other issues or problems?
    the TRI-Z piston "de-tunes" the motor for the "ATV" .. i even got better results when i used "RD-400" Piston's in the Banshee i used to have.. just like TRI-Z-YZ .. there the same size .. just the Windows are diff. ..
    like said ... the "83" YZ cyl. will fit .. you can ax 03orangeshee "Nathan "about it .. he has one
    "07" DR650 Suzuki Dual Sport

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    in the same note... Yamahondaman can attest to ... the first time he met me my 85 R ran like a maniac... found out when I tore it done (first after I bought it) it had a CR piston in it... like the YZ it has no windows in it either... my R ran hard with it.. even though it had a leaking head gasket and a troublesome carb on it that weekend.

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    Very informative - thanks. I know what i will get for my next Tri-z piston now...
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    '85 ATC 250R
    '85 Tri-Z
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    so how long should i run in the new piston for before giving it the beans .

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    The holes in the piston aid cooling, and sometimes act as a transfer for your boost port above the intake.
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