Timming Chain Sounds Bad

[Gearheadtom]

I have a 200e that makes a lot of noise from the timming chain. When I first bought it there was some noise, so I tried adjusting the chain the way I think the manual says, starting up the engine and loosening the adjustment bolt, then tightening it. After I did this the chain sounded much worse. How would I fix this? Did I adjust the chain wrong, or would the previous owner have did some trick to quiet it down which I messed up?

[YTZ Money Pit]

the cam chain tensor/ guide might be worn. i had the same thing happen to me with my 200X. they are only about $20 for the set. i would take off one of the valve covers and see if there is alot of slack in tha cam chain first.

[Gearheadtom]

Today I started working on it trying to find a way to quiet the chain down. What I did was I took out the 10mm bolt out of the adjuster bolt, then I loosened the adjuster bolt. I then put a drywall screw in the hole where the 10mm bolt was to bite into the the piece that moves when you adjust the timing chain. I pulled it up then tightend the adjuster bolt, now most of the noise from the timing chain is gone, except a hiss from the chain rubbing on the guides.
What I'm wondering is that could the timing chain now be to tight and wearing the guides quickly?

[litebulblsc]

I am not sure how loose you have to take the bolt, but the manual specifies that when adjusting the tension with the motor running not to loosen the top but, but to loosen the bottom bottom the other one passes through.

Does any one how loose you have to take the bolt for it to auto tension?

[Dirtcrasher]

What your doing is putting more tension on it than the stock torsion spring does.

Is it too much? could be... But generally they don't take all the noise and slack up unless the chain and guides are fresh.

I've done it to quiet things. When it's time for a top end I'll change everything (including the spring) just to be sure.......

[Gearheadtom]

If I loosen the adjuster bolt and remove the top cap 10mm bolt, an push the piece on the inside down, it does come up, but it makes a lot of noise, and there is a bit of slack on the chain. Just the spring on my old 200e would put the chain much tigher than what this one does. BTW, it is a Honda 200e for those who didn't know.

[oscarmayer]

as mentioned, I would remove the valve cover and replace the tensioneer and if your up to it. you can pull the head off and replace the guide too.

[Gearheadtom]

as mentioned, I would remove the valve cover and replace the tensioneer and if your up to it. you can pull the head off and replace the guide too.

If I replaced one I'd replace the other, but when I had the bottom end apart to get to the bottom of the guide, I would want to replace the front sprocket which needs replaced, and with it the rear sprocket and chain. That would be about $130, and I'm to cheap to spend that much money.

Edit: I just called a local place and they wanted about $30 for the tensioner, and about $30 for the guide.