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    look what i got for free - piece of junk

    a junk 1984 200x frame. yeah, i know its a beater and needs A LOT of parts to finish it off but i have a running 1985 200s that i'll likely transfer over to the 200x frame rather than restore the 200s. the frame has some rust on it but it is solid and is not rusted through. nothing a nice bead blast wouldn't take care of. any pointers on doing the swap or anything i need to get or watch out for? i can probably go to the local boneyard and pick up some of the other parts that i need but not all of them. thinking of getting maier black plastic and going completely black with the bike. i figure it isn't a true 200x so what the hell, i might as well do something other than try to make it look all original.


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    If you already have a complete running and driving 200s or at least one close to it, you are much better off keeping it in one piece. Almost zero parts other then the engine and maybe a few small items will interchange with a 200x. If you can find a 200x with a junk engine or a roller that would just need an engine dropped in then that is the way to go.

    In order to get this one going you would need:

    200x tank
    200x seat
    200x triple tree/forks/front wheel assy
    200x brakes (calipers, master cyl's, lines)
    200x carb, airbox, hoses, and intake
    200x fenders if you really care about plastics
    200x thumb throttle and cable
    200x rear shock and linkage
    200x grab bar
    200x exhaust

    The only things you can use off your 200s are rear wheels, engine, and wiring harness/CDI/coil, and handlebars. You wont be able to use a 200x headlight unless you put a lower wattage bulb in it. Plus, I dont know if its just the photo, but that rear axle looks really bent, you will drive yourself crazy trying to ride with it. You will also need to fab up a rear brake pedal if you want rear brakes, as the pedal bolted to the engine cases on the 200x motor.

    The 200x auto swaps are really fun, but theres just not enough there to do it. Like I said before, you'd be a lot better off buying a complete one that just needed a motor.

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    big schott is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerFirst time rider
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    If you want a 200X then go out and buy a 200X. Take this one and sell what you have .

    Axel ---prety rusty but sombody need one and will clean it up. $2

    Frame ---same as axel but if you can find somebody close that will buy it and pick it up $10

    Swingarm ---- Looks good and on ebay could fetch a good price. $50-$100 (maybee)

    You paid the right price for it but I agree with Nick_R_23 don't take apart a running machine to make something that may or may not work. You need ALOT of parts to get that thing going. (I don't think $1000 would do it ) save yourself alot of frustration and save up for a whole 200x (running) I have picked up 2 for under $1000 each and they had good plastic,ran perfect, and all the parts were all there.

    Just trying to help

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    fatcat is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerFirst time rider
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    or you could clean the frame and swing arm up and seel them for more
    My rides

    MINT 1986 bw 200


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    I wouldnt even try to fix it, atleast with what you have there. Maybe sell the parts, but the axle looks pretty tweaked.
    1986 200x- old school D.I.D wheels, Gold D.I.D X-Ring Chain, Rad MFG. Carrier, PRM Grab Bar, Pro Circuit T-4 custom, Maier plastics, 85x forks, 18x10.5x8 kenda klaw mxr's on itp steels, the money pit never ends

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    Ouch...Looks like a lot of work and money to make that a runner.

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    FIRST, run that vin to be sure it's not on the CA "stolen list".
    If it's clear, then you can get started.

    Clean that mess up and rework the bearings.
    Then paint it up real nice.

    Then start lookin for other parts.

    Pick them up as you can.

    Visit other 3wheeler sites and watch e-bay.
    You can snag some deals.

    Pretty soon, you can have a real nice trike that YOU built yourself.
    Might cost you $400-$500 to do it, but the pride is in the result.

    NEVER "part out" a original or running trike.
    That's killing off a piece of history.
    There's enough folks doing that already.
    I've seen some really nice ones sold in peices for the love of money.

    WE LOVE TRIKES, not money.
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    [QUOTE=MedicineMan;685709]

    Pretty soon, you can have a real nice trike that YOU built yourself.
    Might cost you $400-$500 to do it, but the pride is in the result.
    QUOTE]

    Ahhhhhh, lets do the count...
    This bike needs...
    Brakes (front rear)
    tires (all three with rims)
    tripples
    forks W/boots
    handle bars
    all electronics
    switches
    levers (left and right)
    hyrolics (plus brake fluid)
    headlight (plus bulb)
    gas tank (plus petcock)
    handle bar grips
    gas cap
    Motor
    carb
    gas hose
    spark plug
    sprockets (front plus a new rear one)
    chain
    shock
    all the rubber parts
    tail light
    rear hubs
    foot brake lever
    brake cyl.
    seat
    Air box
    filter
    fenders (front and rear)
    and a complete Bolt package (over $100 for the good ones)

    somebody please tell me how much all this would cost it you bought each item at a time and how many things I forgot.

    Not trying to be a jerk, just see a problem with your math.

    1978 Honda 90 / 1979 Honda 110 / 1983 Honda 110 Racer (in the Works)
    1973 Honda 70 / 1983 Honda 70 / 1983 Honda X-mas special / 1984 Honda 70 / 1985 Honda 70
    1985 Honda 200X Stock Original
    1985 Honda 350X
    1985 Honda 250R
    1986 Honda 350X
    1987 Honda 250SX

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    I'm right with ya Biggy......

    I rarely see anything run and roll for less than a grand and about 2000$ usually gets you a reliable and tight running decent looking trike.

    I'm all with saving every trike possible though...... :
    All our government does is distract us while they steal from us, misspend our tax $ and ruin our country

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    big schott is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerFirst time rider
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    Thats what I didn't got to, I hate seeing these good machines getting cut apart to make some "frankenstein" or just toar apart for parts.

    Somebody out their has a 84 200x that has a frame that is bent and needs a good frame. Well, here is a good frame.

    1978 Honda 90 / 1979 Honda 110 / 1983 Honda 110 Racer (in the Works)
    1973 Honda 70 / 1983 Honda 70 / 1983 Honda X-mas special / 1984 Honda 70 / 1985 Honda 70
    1985 Honda 200X Stock Original
    1985 Honda 350X
    1985 Honda 250R
    1986 Honda 350X
    1987 Honda 250SX

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    [QUOTE=big schott;685794]
    Quote Originally Posted by MedicineMan View Post

    Pretty soon, you can have a real nice trike that YOU built yourself.
    Might cost you $400-$500 to do it, but the pride is in the result.
    QUOTE]

    Ahhhhhh, lets do the count...
    This bike needs...
    <insert long list>
    somebody please tell me how much all this would cost it you bought each item at a time and how many things I forgot.

    Not trying to be a jerk, just see a problem with your math.
    I'll let you know when I'm done with my current 200x "frame up" build project.

    It's going nicely, and I'm only in it about $100 so far.

    But that's ok.
    If builds ain't your thing then they ain't your thang.

    But don't tell the guy it's impossible, or that he'd pay anywhere near $2000 to build a good useable trike.
    It just ain't so.
    1984 Honda 200ES "Big Red"

    1985 ATC 70

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    I now have the front forks, brake calipers, suspension shock, and a few other misc parts. I basically need the intake manifold because I think it is different than the 200s, plastic, seat, handlebars, gas tank, headlight, exhaust, and other small parts such as bolts, cables, bearings. The 200s I have needs new bearings, new cables, new gas tank, new fenders, front fork rebuild, new exhaust, and new headlight. It runs but it needs a lot of work. I figure it'll cost me about $5-600 to get the bike up and running. Just have to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n10sivern View Post
    I now have the front forks, brake calipers, suspension shock, and a few other misc parts. I basically need the intake manifold because I think it is different than the 200s, plastic, seat, handlebars, gas tank, headlight, exhaust, and other small parts such as bolts, cables, bearings. The 200s I have needs new bearings, new cables, new gas tank, new fenders, front fork rebuild, new exhaust, and new headlight. It runs but it needs a lot of work. I figure it'll cost me about $5-600 to get the bike up and running. Just have to see.

    So far, I have gotten my:

    Frame
    Swinger & bolt
    gas tank (plus petcock) Have TWO actually. Anybody need one??
    gas cap
    Already had a carb
    Already had Spark Plugs
    gas hose
    shock
    Misc rubber parts
    Air box
    filter
    seat cover
    Working on a deal for fenders (rear)

    and instead of a "complete Bolt package" I'm making use of the Stainless and grade 8 "BINS" at my local hardware store as well as the Bolt distributor here in town and what I already have on hand.

    Some Duplicolor "rattle-cans" will provide what color I want.

    Al that's needed is:

    Brakes (front & rear) from caliper to masters
    tires (all three with rims)
    tripples
    forks W/boots (did you know you can use some automotive offroad shock boots??)
    handle bars
    all electronics
    switches
    Brake lever (right)
    headlight (plus bulb) MAYBE
    gas tank (plus petcock)
    handle bar grips
    gas cap
    Engine will be a 200m or 200e.
    sprockets (front plus a new rear one)
    chain
    Misc rubber parts
    won't be using a tail light
    rear hubs
    foot brake lever
    seat
    Working on some "temp" plastics for rear. Finished it will be Black or Carbon
    Last edited by MedicineMan; 12-24-2008 at 04:09 AM.
    1984 Honda 200ES "Big Red"

    1985 ATC 70

    2006 Honda Shadow Aero


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    Mr.Lil Trikes is offline Registered User ( check my feedback before doing any deals with me ) New to the board
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    Medicines right...,,,
    I did a complete ground up buil on my x and i finished it off by spending a whopping total of $450. I did trade 70 and 350x stuff though. But $2000? Really? Thats a showroom bike.....Mines ok missing a few little odds and ends but its a strong runner!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Lil Trikes View Post
    Medicines right...,,,
    I did a complete ground up buil on my x and i finished it off by spending a whopping total of $450. I did trade 70 and 350x stuff though. But $2000? Really? Thats a showroom bike.....Mines ok missing a few little odds and ends but its a strong runner!
    Showroom Condition is 5000$ and upwards easily........

    People are paying 1500$ for 85/86 350X and 86/87 200X plastic alone. Another 300$ for a gas tank, 300$ for an OEM seat and on and on..... I'll never have OEM plastic because I ride all my trikes.

    After the trike itself is purchased, a total investment of 2000$ gets you appx. the following:

    3 new tires and rims
    Rebuilt suspension
    Completely rebuilt motor
    Maier plastics
    Rebuilt brakes
    Recovered seat
    New exhaust
    New bars

    Thats not showroom, it's already more than 2000$ and very nice and reliable but not showroom condition.......

    I can't barely powdercoat a frame and all the little parts for less than 300$, rebuild forks for under 100$, build a motor in stock form for 500$ - so IDK how someone can have a "complete ground up build" for 450$. Unles ground up build means that you put it together and it runs.

    Don't take it the wrong way, I've had great 250SX's I paid 500$ for that ran and ran and ran. I've seen 200$ trikes that run forever.

    Trikes can be and are bought everyday for next to nothing that are daily riders.

    It's all in what YOU want and what makes YOU feel comfortable and happy. Everyone's idea of "restored" and built from the "ground up" seems to have quite a different range.

    Regardless, good luck on the build. There are tons of 1st generation 200X parts out there and I'm sure you can get yourself a runner for a reasonable cost
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