1922 south bend 9'' lathe restore ......New stuff

[SWIGIN]

another thing i ran into was i busted the take up nut while trying to press off the little gear on the end of the spindle.....i wanted to puke when i seen what i did.

turns out beings this is an 87 year old lathe and different then most other south bend lathes i was on my own to find a replacment. so i went over HRE yet again and showed him what i did and what i need to do to make one.

turn out he didnt have the 1 1/8x16 tap i needed (witch costs $55) so we decided to thread it on his lathe....keep in mind we never threaded on a lathe other then just messing around. turns out his threading chart for his lathe was NOT right at all...so we just kept messing with the levers till we got 16 threads per inch (took about an hour). he then handed me some 2'' round stock and said there you go...get to it....lol

heres the busted nut and my first atempt. the take up nut is basicly a threaded coller that locks down with a screw.

the second pic is my second atempt at makeing this and it fits perfect...i need to find a set of threading gears so i can do this stuff on my lathe.

[SWIGIN]

i got the gear cover painted and put on today....i just need to get the brass tags put back on it now.

i also got to start on a milling atatchment....my brother had this little cheap vise he was going to throw out so i took it and machined a peice that fits it nice and tight that i will somehow get to fit where the tool holder goes.

[HondaHarry]

Thats too cool, I want one, so I dont have to bug the hell out of my freind and use his stuff all the time... I think he is starting to get sick of me. lol
Great Job! HH

[SWIGIN]

thanks man, i realy got into this little project.

i think HRE will be happy when i get this thing all set up too since im always using his stuff...lol

[SWIGIN]

well the brass tags are on so im calling it done. there will always be little things i might make for it but as far as the restore it's now done.

the brass tags are suposed to be black with the raised parts showing brass so i polished them with 000 steel wool and painted them, then carefully scraped off the paint on the raised letters.

i did not do all of the large threading tag since they seem to get beat up anyway and i didnt what to mess up the red S at the top of that tag.

first pic is just a before pic of the little tag.

[Dirtcrasher]

Very nice!!

Where did ya get that toolpost!

Nice to have all the guards and covers - I have none and no tags on mine either

[SWIGIN]

MSC, grizzly type places sell them.

its a phase ll ( roman numeral for 2) its a joy to use these piston type quick change tool holders.

MSC just had them on sale for $99 but normal price is about double that. i got lucky and talked the guy i got the lathe from into buying it a year ago so i got it with the deal for free....lol



link to tool holder http://www.grizzly.com/products/Quic...10-Swing/G5689

heres the tool kit i have http://www.grizzly.com/products/5-pc...Set-1-2-/G5640

the inserts are cheesy but i will replace them with good ones

[honda250sx]

There are guys that repop them tags wayne.

Nice job.

On a CNC there are no gears. Just code in what you want. LOL. I could have made you about 25 in 5 minutes. Ahh Technology...

[SWIGIN]

i seen guys who do the tags for $50 a pop.....mine look ok and it was all but free.

[Dirtcrasher]

^ Yeah, ENCO just sent me a catalog with that post for 95$, I wasn't sure if that toolpost came with the deal or not. I'm sure you've been watching EBAY for a gear set, they can fetch quite a bit of cash........

I will be selling my lathe this year. Although my present lathe is great for little collars and spacers etc etc. I do not have room for 2 lathes and I want one lathe with a quick change gear box that does it all. The big stuff, I'll have to farm out..... I also need a larger opening to slide things into the spindle and about 3' long working length would be perfect and fit in my shop well.

Sad to say, just like 3 wheelers, I may part out my lathe..... I'll see if anyone wants to pay a grand for it as is, but I doubt it. Then the beds get sold for scrap - Ahhhh, the American way!

So, if I decide to go that route, I'll sell you my gears if you don't find a set by then.

I need and want a heavy ten and it has to get done soon, just like the TIG welder!!

[SWIGIN]

please, please, PLEASE do not forget to let me know when you want to sell some parts off your lathe.

back gear, change gears, tumbler gears...ect

i hope you can sell it whole but if not let me know first.

thanks

[SWIGIN]

my lathe also came with a new set of end mills 1/4-3/4'' 2 and 4 flute so i decided to give milling on a lathe a try.

this is the first thing iv milled on a lathe but i have needed a dial holder for my spare dial indicator for years. in the first and third pic, the black end is what i made...it was a scrap hunk of 1 1/4'' round solid stock.



i also made the aluminum pivit/hinge things needed to use a dial indicator and the rod was just 5/16 stainless that i threaded to fit into the lathe and to the milled holder end.

[Dirtcrasher]

Hey SWIGIN, sorry about the delay..... I'm not much of a PM guy (ATCST@Verizon.net) works well though

Honestly, I am not 100% sure I even HAVE a SB lathe?? It's so old that I believe the serial numbers were on the missing covers... That number on your casting, is that under the headstock or where is it exactly??

Even my spindle is very odd. It is 1.75 - 8TPI and that isn't available, I had to have a backing plate machined but SB does not list that thread.

I have been told it's an SB, and someone stated it was a 1928 based on a few features he pointed out (that info is long gone now...) I have pics somewhere of the castings that ran the pulley shaft, I sold it fro AWESOME$$ because I could build my own easier.

Anyhow, here are the gears - they are .875 w/ a .1875 key. Again, maybe an odd ball.... BUT! These gears are mint, look never used and not one broken tooth so I'd assume that to the right person, they are worth some great bucks!! I've got a huge perfect 14" face plate for this lathe too....

What website are you getting all the help on?? I gotta sign up and figure this thing out!

GEARS:





Again, it's a nice little lathe, but I need more. The biggest thing is the ID of the spindle. I have allot of stuff I need to slide thru a bit to hold it better....

[SWIGIN]

all south bend lathes since 1910 have a serial number on the right end of the bed stamped right in the way closest to you. normally right where most guys leave the tail stock sit when not in use.

those gears look wide and the ID of the holes dont seem to be south bend....you might be right as far as it not being a SB.

post pics of it on practicalmachinist.com there's tons of old school machine freaks on that site.

edit ...... the number is on top of the bed right under my tail stock.

[SWIGIN]

im quickly learning why they make live centers.....dead centers SUCK to work with. first thing i did when i got the lathe running was to turn all the dead centers i have so they are ready to use.

they are already wasted after a few uses and they need constant oiling and ajusted as the work heats up from the friction.

so yesterday i started on making a live center, getting the taper right is the tricky part so it seats tight in the tail stock. i'll be using a sealed ball bearing in the big end and make various tips that fit the ID of that bearing.

this is made out of some kind of real hard steel thats bin floating around the garage for years and it turns horrible but it should last.