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Thread: Kxt250 Tecate 3 What Parts Fit Swap Interchange?

  1. #211
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    To clear up brake rotors:

    1987 KXT250 b2 rear = 220mm. EBC md6134d

    1986/87 KXT250 front and 1986 KXT250 B1 rear = 206mm. EBC md6138d

    87-88 KXF250 rear = 230mm. EBC md6136d

    87-88 KXF250 front = 170mm. EBC md6133d

    http://www.ebcbrakes.com/assets/ecat...gue.html#p=432
    86 T3
    84 T3
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    I see part number - 44065-1085 BUSHING,FRONT FORK is ACTIVE

    Model (16):
    ZG1000-A10 (Concours) (1995)
    ZG1000-A11 (CANADA ONLY) (1996)
    ZG1000-A12 (Concours) (1997)
    ZG1000-A13 (Concours) (1998)
    ZG1000-A9 (Concours) (1994)
    ZR750-C1 (Zephyr 750) (1991)
    ZR750-C2 (Zephyr 750) (1992)
    ZR750-C3 (Zephyr 750) (1993)
    ZX1000-B1 (Ninja ZX-10) (1988)
    ZX1000-B2 (Ninja ZX-10) (1989)
    ZX1000-B3 (Ninja ZX-10) (1990)
    ZX1100-E1 (GPZ 1100) (1995)
    ZX1100-E2 (GPZ 1100) (1996)
    ZX1100-E3 (GPZ 1100) (1997)
    ZX1100-F1 (GPZ 1100 ABS) (1996)
    ZX600-F1 (Ninja ZX-6R) (1995)

    44065-1064 was superseded by -1085

    So....
    44065-1081 (44018-1051)
    Description: BUSHING-FRONT FORK,IN
    Package Quantity: 1
    Item Status Code: Canceled

    Model (8):
    ZG1000-A1 (Concours) (1986)
    ZG1000-A2 (Concours) (1987)
    ZG1000-A3 (Concours) (1988)
    ZG1000-A4 (CANADA ONLY) (1989)
    ZG1000-A5 (Concours) (1990)
    ZG1000-A6 (Concours) (1991)
    ZG1000-A7 (Concours) (1992)
    ZG1000-A8 (Concours) (1993)
    86 T3
    84 T3
    86 KX250

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    1984 1985 Tecate:

    dog bone bearing

    59266-1052 $77.00 ea SB142820EO seals are in same link below.

    http://www.xtremeusa.com/OEMpartfind...1984/080182J-6

    59266-1009 SAME PART AS ABOVE $53.00

    http://www.ronayers.com/JOINT-BALLSB...-P4005469.aspx

    SUSP LINK BEARINGS

    THE PLACE BELOW HAS 8 OF THEM. GO TO LOCAL BEARING SUPPLY WITH THE SIZE. THEY MAY ALSO HAVE THEM.

    92046-1041 SIZE 24X31X28 TA2428Z

    http://www.catalyst-findit.co.uk/ind...528&pid=74-018

    BUY ALL THE 1041's YOU WANT HERE

    http://www.bearingsbikepartsseals.co...mm-ta2428.html

    here ya go.


    bushing/seal

    11012-1203


    shim

    92025-1229

    click on the xtremeusa link, wait 10 seconds then click on the back page bitton on the your scxreen so see the parts fiche.

    both these might be available at ronayers.com

    Bushings will work in place of needle bearings in this app however the needle bearings will allow the arm to move more freely especially under the severe loads the arm is subjected to.


    The bearings i listed are original Japanese made IKO bearings. they are also made by ntn which is japanese.

    The cost is $12.27 each plus $11.44 shipping to California or $11.2 each plus $31.04 shipping if one buys 10 at a time. They are not $20.00 each however the shipping cos can be high depending on where you buy them and where you live..

    http://www.bearingsbikepartsseals.co...mm-ta2428.html


    you can also buy them dirt cheap from china. HKS brand

    p/n HKS152312

    http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/ta2428z.html


    looks like same bearing HMK2428 $12.00 ea.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/HMK2428-NTN-...75#ht_87wt_910

    http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/88...pe_Needle.html



    seals

    11012-1203 $9.54 ea plus $8.00 to California.

    http://www.ronayers.com/Search.aspx?k=11012-1203




    2 bearings....24.54
    shipping.......11.44
    seals.......... 19.08
    shipping........8.00
    tax..................0

    total...........63.06
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    wiring diagram for 1986 KX250
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    wiring diagram for 1983-1985 KX250
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    86 T3
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    86 KX250

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    Quote Originally Posted by nd4speed View Post
    I see part number - 44065-1085 BUSHING,FRONT FORK is ACTIVE

    Model (16):
    ZG1000-A10 (Concours) (1995)
    ZG1000-A11 (CANADA ONLY) (1996)
    ZG1000-A12 (Concours) (1997)
    ZG1000-A13 (Concours) (1998)
    ZG1000-A9 (Concours) (1994)
    ZR750-C1 (Zephyr 750) (1991)
    ZR750-C2 (Zephyr 750) (1992)
    ZR750-C3 (Zephyr 750) (1993)
    ZX1000-B1 (Ninja ZX-10) (1988)
    ZX1000-B2 (Ninja ZX-10) (1989)
    ZX1000-B3 (Ninja ZX-10) (1990)
    ZX1100-E1 (GPZ 1100) (1995)
    ZX1100-E2 (GPZ 1100) (1996)
    ZX1100-E3 (GPZ 1100) (1997)
    ZX1100-F1 (GPZ 1100 ABS) (1996)
    ZX600-F1 (Ninja ZX-6R) (1995)

    44065-1064 was superseded by -1085

    So....
    44065-1081 (44018-1051)
    Description: BUSHING-FRONT FORK,IN
    Package Quantity: 1
    Item Status Code: Canceled

    Model (8):
    ZG1000-A1 (Concours) (1986)
    ZG1000-A2 (Concours) (1987)
    ZG1000-A3 (Concours) (1988)
    ZG1000-A4 (CANADA ONLY) (1989)
    ZG1000-A5 (Concours) (1990)
    ZG1000-A6 (Concours) (1991)
    ZG1000-A7 (Concours) (1992)
    ZG1000-A8 (Concours) (1993)
    Race Tech makes a replacement for Kawasaki p/n 44018-1051. it is Race Tech p/n FMBI 41201 P. They have many of the street bikes listed but not the 86/87 Tecate. It is the same part though. I just paid $25 for a pair.

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    As far a the 84/85 suspension linkage bearings it looks like a 94/95 Honda CB1000 swingarm bearing should work:
    http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detai...3-MZ1-003.html

    It's the same size roller bearing, I wonder if the dust seals are usable too?
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    Well some KX500 riders are saying the weak small spring pushing together the ratchet gears is why the kickstart gear slips and the slipping causes the gear damage.

    Solution 1 was add another washer to push the spring harder or of course coming up with a strong spring.

    Having the right washers in the assembly stack or even adding more to the stack.

    Cutting back gears if needed but they may be surface hardened???

    Kick starter will not always engage when engine is cold. If I lean the bike to the right and pull slightly on the kick start shaft it will usually engage. Once the bike starts and warms up a little no problems after that. Kick starter engages every time.

    I had the exact same problem with my 500 when I bought it...once it was warmed up, it was fine.
    It was the ratchet spring that was the problem...they're a fine wire spring and get weak over time.
    Get the correct part #...and they're under $10.

    Part Number 92081-122
    Description: SPRING,RATCHET
    Package Quantity: 1
    Item Status Code: Active
    used in 359 models of Kawasaki, easy to find



    Part Number 13078-1007
    Description: RATCHET

    Model (7):
    KDX200-C1 (KDX200) (1986)
    KDX200-C2 (KDX200) (1987)
    KDX200-C3 (KDX200) (1988)
    KX250-F1 (KX250) (1988)
    KX250-G1 (KX250) (1989)
    KXF250-A1 (Tecate 4) (1987)
    KXF250-A2 (Tecate 4) (1988)

    Superseded Part Number 13078-1061
    Description: RATCHET
    Fits:

    KDX200-A1 (KDX200) (1983)
    KDX200-A2 (KDX200) (1984)
    KDX200-A3 (KDX200) (1985)
    KDX200-E1 (KDX200) (1989)
    KDX250-B3 (KDX250) (1983)
    KDX250- (KDX250) (1984)
    KX250-C1 (KX250) (1983)
    KX250-C2 (KX250) (1984)
    KX250-D1 (KX250) (1985)
    KX250-D2 (KX250) (1986)
    KX250-E1 (KX250) (1987)
    KXT250-A1 (Tecate) (1984)
    KXT250-A2 (Tecate) (1985)
    KXT250-B1 (Tecate) (1986)
    KXT250-B2 (Tecate) (1987)

    Part Number 59051-1051
    Description: GEAR-SPUR,KICKSTARTER

    Model (10):
    KDX250-B3 (KDX250) (1983)
    KDX250- (KDX250) (1984)
    KX250-C1 (KX250) (1983)
    KX250-C2 (KX250) (1984)
    KX250-D1 (KX250) (1985)
    KX250-D2 (KX250) (1986)
    KXT250-A1 (Tecate) (1984)
    KXT250-A2 (Tecate) (1985)
    KXT250-B1 (Tecate) (1986)
    KXT250-B2 (Tecate) (1987)

    PArt 59051-1022
    IDLE GEAR, KICKSTRTER

    Model (16):
    KDX250-A1 (KDX250) (1980)
    KDX250-B1 (KDX250) (1981)
    KDX250-B2 (KDX250) (1982)
    KDX250-B3 (KDX250) (1983)
    KDX250- (KDX250) (1984)
    KX250-A6 (KX250) (1980)
    KX250-A7 (KX250) (1981)
    KX250-B1 (KX250) (1982)
    KX250-C1 (KX250) (1983)
    KX250-C2 (KX250) (1984)
    KX250-D1 (KX250) (1985)
    KX250-D2 (KX250) (1986)
    KXT250-A1 (Tecate) (1984)
    KXT250-A2 (Tecate) (1985)
    KXT250-B1 (Tecate) (1986)
    KXT250-B2 (Tecate) (1987)

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    There was also talk of KX250 engine parts were not changed much from 89-2004 for sure and the changes were minor and all versions are compatible.

    s happens... the 3. gear of the ´87 is now for the scrap man ... same problem like on the ´83 kx250 2 years ago ...
    First i fixed the transmission of my 87-motor . A snap ring was out of direction. gears still looking like new. so i replaced all snap rings and washers..

    KX 250 Transmission Gears and forks are matching from ´83-´89 only the shafts were changed in 85 and 88 ...

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    Supposed KX250 Factory Race works crank?
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    Much to learn and now i know quite every part that was mounted on the kx 2stroke 250 and 500 between 1983 and 2008 ... and you would be stunned to learn that a little handful parts in the last kx250 in 2008 were unchanged since 1978...

    Kawi didn't change things unless they could make it worth while. Look at the kx500 1988 they found a frame and ergos that carried the bike until 04, 89-04 KX500 engines stayed the same except for a few minor parts that can be adapted to fit all those years, They used the "K.I.S.S." and "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mottos lol

    Hi All,

    Just one of my options right now since parts are hard to find.

    I'm adding up the cost to fix the motor and it's coming close to the price of a good used 2000 kx motor I found.

    So how much moding do I need to do to get it to fit?

    dinky,

    thats definetely a job for the advanced kx-wrencher!... smiley

    the 2000 engine fits to the 87 lower motormounts, but its still a lot of modifying the 87 use 8mm motorbolts and 15mm swingarm-bolt . the 2000 engine has 10mm boltholes and 17mm swingarm-bolt...
    last year i had a 96 engine in my 87 frame... you need a completed modifyed pipe , bolt-on-headstay or a 2003/04 cylinderhead, handmade-bushings everywhere for the motormounts and swingarm-bolt...handmade brackets for the headstay...
    here you can take a look at it: http://der-motopunk.de.tl/projekt-ev...r-kx250E1-.htm

    if i where you, i would rebuild the 87 engine or try to get an good used 88-91 engine. that would make some things easier for the engine swap...
    second option: you can try to fit the 2000 crank and cylinder to the 87 motor-bottom, but also not as easy as it sounds in first...
    Last edited by nd4speed; 05-06-2014 at 02:39 AM.
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    84 T3
    86 KX250

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    Cool

    Here's the link for swapping forks from the 85 Tecate to using the 86 Tecate forks:


    http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...-Tecate-please

    I read somewhere in this thread it was possible and it got me curious, there's no real details to the swap but there are some pics and input from members in there.

    I swapped the 85 out for the 86 forks, it's a direct swap fits like a glove.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3 Wheel Drive View Post
    Here's the link for swapping forks from the 85 Tecate to using the 86 Tecate forks:


    http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...-Tecate-please

    I read somewhere in this thread it was possible and it got me curious, there's no real details to the swap but there are some pics and input from members in there.
    Oh wow he tried to put the 1986/87 style tank and radiator setup on the A1/A2....I searched around for info and found people saying it was possible but with no pictures and no real steps of what was involved in the swap. Good find!

    Some one on here was going to buy a 86 Triple tree set from me to do this swap soon but the money never showed and guess he hasnt had time to get started on it. Maybe he will and provide more info on the conversion.


    Last edited by nd4speed; 04-06-2014 at 01:19 PM.
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    So it seems the 1990-94 KDX250 is a direct bolt on motor swap for the 1986/87 Tecate. Sprockets, swingarm bolt, and Motor mounts line up except the front need spacers and the upper motor mounts always need to be fabricated or modded.

    This also means many other KX250 motors fit directly in this frame as mentioned like 3 posts above this one.

    Read about a members cool swap and build here:
    http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...e-build-thread

    86 T3
    84 T3
    86 KX250

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    Bushing fit, but they don't. Some modification needed

    Quote Originally Posted by falloutboy View Post
    A slight hiccup. The Race Tech bushings are a tiny bit thicker than stock. They fit perfectly in the lower tube by themselves and fit the upper, but with a gap. The old stock bushing was almost touching itself. My idea is to reduce the overall diameter of the recess for the bushing, thus closing the gap and allowing the bushing on the inner pipe to go in the lower fork tube. I'm guessing a few thousandths if that...
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    I just picked up a $50.00 Banshee shock, its around a 1/2" - 3/8" shorter than the stock 85 Tecate shock.

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    01-05 Raptor 660 rear wheel hubs fit a 86/87 Tecate rear axle. Slides on nice and tight. Only difference is the hub doesn't slide on all the way as the axle splines stop and there is about a 1/4-1/2 inch gap from hubs hitting the stop point on the axle. Also on area where the nut goes on the hub sticks out about a 1/4 inch from where the splines stop. Click image for larger version. 

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    85 ATC 250r -Under Construction
    86 TRX250r
    05 KFX400
    02 400EX

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    I know you said the T4 motor doesn't fit the 86 T3, but does it require a lot of work? My frame, swing arm were just powder coated. I have a spare 330 T4 motor in storage and that I forgot I had. I'm thinking of putting it in my build. Thanks for your input..
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