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  1. 03-31-2009, 07:50 AM #1
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    86R doesn't like starting in the cold...normal?

    Hey guys;

    Took my 86R out the last couple of days, weather has been warming up, but it's still below 0C. First day, took well over a dozen kicks to start, but I thought it was normal because it was sitting for a few months, but then it takes the same for the next few days? Warm it starts on the first kick.

    Yes, choke is on. Gas is at 32:1 and fresh. Temp is -10 to 0C.

    In the summer it fires after 2 kicks religiously. Just wondering if putting in a new stator and working on getting a hotter spark would help?

    Is this normal for starting a 250R? I've had other 2 strokes that didn't seem so stubborn to start in the winter.

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  2. 03-31-2009, 12:27 PM #2
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    It may be normal if it is that cold. How long ago did you replace the spark plug? That would be a good place to start. It could also be a partialy cloged pilot jet (starter jet) in the carb, that is pretty common too. Are you running a fuel filter? Replacing the plug with a hotter one will always increase the risk of burning a hole in the piston crown. I would try a new plug and possibly carb cleaning first.
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  3. 03-31-2009, 12:41 PM #3
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    If your jetting is right and the electical is in good shape, a 2-stroke should fire pretty easily in any weather. In cold weather, most 2-strokes need to be richened up a bit.
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    It's a brand new carb, from last summer and plug was brand new (just put in)..I am wondering about the rest of the electrical, but spark is fine. Thinking about a new stator from e-bay might be worth it, but the stator falls in specs. Wish it had a primer like me old ski-doo...
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    If you didn't adjust your jetting for the cold weather, that is more likely the problem than something electrical.
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  6. 03-31-2009, 02:48 PM #6
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    i never have any problems with starting my 85R in cold wheather
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    It should start right up. Maybe your pilot jet is too small.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Atc View Post
    i never have any problems with starting my 85R in cold wheather
    who owns the sweet trike in your avatar picture? Yours?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saul View Post
    who owns the sweet trike in your avatar picture? Yours?!

    He did'nt answer the first time he was asked. I know that is Hartley. (1upfront)
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    Let's see some PICTURES of the ATC 250R !
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