Lifted 3Wheeler anybody?

[SYKO]

like I said I fit 27's with no problem and the 589's arnt to heavy so I couldnt tell a difference how it handled, but any bigger and your looking for trouble, plus your going to KILL the stock rear end trying to keep those meats rollin.

[hondahaulic]

since the stock size is 25 you should be able to go a little bigger like syko said about the 27's. With a trike you want flotation in the mud, so don't fill the tires with fluid. You will either want to gear down a chain driven trike, or use a trike that has a high and low range gear selector.

In deep rutted mud from 4x4's, I have found a good technique is to drop your front wheel in a rut. That means your engine cradle will be over that rut too, so you won't bottom out. Your rear tires will have traction the whole time. Two weekends ago I was cruising right through a mudhole on my 200es without a problem, and I did it 10 or so times. There were 3 big 4x4 quads trying the same mudhole. They all had big mud tires and one was even lifted. They were constanlty struggling trying to shake/push/pull themselves loose, and more than once one had to be winched out. I definitely made it through much easier every time with my 25" turf tamers on my 200es in low 2nd gear. The looks on peoples faces were priceless.

[Macs]

like I said I fit 27's with no problem and the 589's arnt to heavy so I couldnt tell a difference how it handled, but any bigger and your looking for trouble, plus your going to KILL the stock rear end trying to keep those meats rollin.

they measure the size before the lugs. i think they have a total of 3" on the lugs so a 25 outlaw is really a 28.

[Hoosier_Daddy]

It's good to see pics of 's chopper. I remember when he first showed it here and all you could think is "that's cool, but looks dangerous". Even though it looked dangerous, the coolness factor was still there. Maybe you could have the same thing with a lifted trike. Give it a shot. Just be careful riding it.

[ridindirty90]

He is wanting to put 29.5's with huge lugs and weight 50 lbs a piece. It will be difficult to accomplish this for something that will give undesirable results. I do like the SX on the youtube.

http://www.highlifter.com/product.php?pk=7799&pname=


He will have alot better luck with the 25's

Like I said i'm not looking for good performance in the mud, just want a lifted 3wheeler to cruz around on. I was able to make a 90cc atv pull 28" outlaws good enough to run around the main trails at crosby and shiloh ridge, so i'm sure i can make a 250 work good enough to cruz the hardpack.

Another question on the BR250, since its not chain drive is there a gear reduction available for it? probly a long shot but you never know? Maybe do some of the lower gears from the smaller trikes fit in that tranny??

[Name Brand]

I think the bigger problem is finding the right gear reduction to turn the tires at useful speeds. It's a simple math problem to figure out what ratio you need with bigger tires; the hard part is finding the pieces to put it together. With chain drive it's far easier, swap sprockets accordingly and create new chain length.

But when I hear 29.5's, I have to imagine you don't want anything holding you back in the rough stuff. Since you mentioned crossing water; a shaft drive is far superior to a chain in that regard and many others.

You should be able to run a TRX diff in a 250BR swingarm and have a lower gear ratio. I fear that still wouldn't provide much low end torque with 29.5's.

With my extended swinger I may be able to fit 26's, maybe even 27's on the rear. I think a larger tire would hurt me though, due to the loss of torque at lower ranges.

Even if you do figure out how to get 29.5's on the back, you still need a good solution for the front.

If I wanted 29.5's on a trike, I'd cut up a four-wheeler that will already fit that size. Chop the front off, attach a steering stem and fab up frame tubes. Maybe use an R frontend since I hear they are pretty tall. You could get shaft drive and a bigger engine too.

[brapp]

first off if you try and lift the big red you will run into the problem of driveline angles its such a short drive shaft if you extent an inch firther you will bind your universal joint and it will wear and brake bigtime. the only way i can think of to do it is portal drives on the back .

[tbirdscott]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTBvF...e=channel_page this guy has tractor tires on the back and rt 185 forks it looks jacked

Looks like the 200S i made last spring, had 14" bias ply town & Country tires on the back and the rear tire off of a TT600 on the front. Went anywhere, through snow and water it would keep plugging along no problems. Though I did end up reversing the wheels to widen it out some in the rear.



Scott

[brapp]

and gthe portal drives would give you your lift and gear reduction if so desired.

[ridindirty90]

I think the bigger problem is finding the right gear reduction to turn the tires at useful speeds. It's a simple math problem to figure out what ratio you need with bigger tires; the hard part is finding the pieces to put it together. With chain drive it's far easier, swap sprockets accordingly and create new chain length.

But when I hear 29.5's, I have to imagine you don't want anything holding you back in the rough stuff. Since you mentioned crossing water; a shaft drive is far superior to a chain in that regard and many others.

You should be able to run a TRX diff in a 250BR swingarm and have a lower gear ratio. I fear that still wouldn't provide much low end torque with 29.5's.

With my extended swinger I may be able to fit 26's, maybe even 27's on the rear. I think a larger tire would hurt me though, due to the loss of torque at lower ranges.

Even if you do figure out how to get 29.5's on the back, you still need a good solution for the front.

If I wanted 29.5's on a trike, I'd cut up a four-wheeler that will already fit that size. Chop the front off, attach a steering stem and fab up frame tubes. Maybe use an R frontend since I hear they are pretty tall. You could get shaft drive and a bigger engine too.

Well i'm not looking for a mud bogger, it just needs to get around the main trails where i ride, not looking to bury it and see how far it will go i have other quads to ride. but i will need some type of gear reduction, thats why i'm leaning towards a chain drive model. I would prefer the br 250 but a 200 might have to work. Plus it would be so easy to lift the rear with no shafts to worry about. the front should be fairly easy.

wich honda trikes have the high/low selector? I know the 110 does, do the bigger ones have that too? I owned a big red 250 years ago but i cant remember.

I still can't beleive NOBODY has any pics of this, i know somebody has lifted a 3wheeler more than an inch. lol

[ridindirty90]

and gthe portal drives would give you your lift and gear reduction if so desired.

What is a portal drive? can't find anything on it.

[SYKO]

portal drive is what is on some tractors it ataches to the axle and uses chains or gears to go to the wheel and in turn acts as a lift for it as well.

[The Goat]

they do make gear reductions for the 250es...it's a gearing swap within the tranny. search on trx300 gearing swap over on highlifter.

[ridindirty90]

oh ok I just call those chain hubs.

10-4 on the gear swap, i figured there had to be something out there.

[trikerooster]

I remember when Me and my brother were jumping THE big red. We hit 30'
We hit 80' on the 200X. It felt like we were going to brake are wrists on big red.
I want to make some videos jumping my R. People really think that you can't jump trikes.