Need Help Tri Z wont move???

[1972mercury]

I just finished redoing my tri z and was running it and it was running really good and I went pull the clutch in go to shift it then it just dies first thing I thought it was the idle was too low so I got it to idle to about 2500-3000 rpm's tried it again and it dosent die now but I hear it go into gear but when I let the clutch out nothing???? the only other thing I can think of is the bolts that hold the clutch basket maybe those are too tight? has anybody else have this problem?

[Yamaha_Rules69]

Im willing to bet that you have the pressure plate on the clutch pack installed incorrectly. There are two index marks, one on the basket, and one on the pressure plate. These two have to line up, or it will not work. I missed it on my first time, and this is what happened to me. Pull that right case cover off and check it out. ---- Jon

[1972mercury]

Im willing to bet that you have the pressure plate on the clutch pack installed incorrectly. There are two index marks, one on the basket, and one on the pressure plate. These two have to line up, or it will not work. I missed it on my first time, and this is what happened to me. Pull that right case cover off and check it out. ---- Jon

You know your probably right i can't remember lining up the marks I seen 1 but never thought nothing of it I'll take it apart tomorrow and find out if that was the problem

[John 4]

Please be sure to post your findings so the rest of us can use this thread in the future...Pics would also be awesome.
Good luck!

[1972mercury]

Well worked on the tri z today pulled off the crankcase cover seen the 3 arrows on the clutch cover pulled off the cover and seen the 3 arrows on the inside clutch and it wasnt lined up so I turned it so it would line up put it all back together and..... nothing yet??? I was wondering is there supposed to be play in between the clutches and the clutch cover cause? when I put everything back together I noticed a gap about 3/8 of a inch between the last clutch disc to the clutch cover.

[El Camexican]

Well worked on the tri z today pulled off the crankcase cover seen the 3 arrows on the clutch cover pulled off the cover and seen the 3 arrows on the inside clutch and it wasnt lined up so I turned it so it would line up put it all back together and..... nothing yet??? I was wondering is there supposed to be play in between the clutches and the clutch cover cause? when I put everything back together I noticed a gap about 3/8 of a inch between the last clutch disc to the clutch cover.

When you say the "clutch cover" I assume you mean the preassure plate? If so and there is a 3/8" gap between it and the last friction plate you have something jacked up. Are you sure you have all the plates in there? Seems you are either missing about 3 plates, or something in the lever/cable/pushrod is very wrong.

Maybe this can help you trouble shoot it.
http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...ght=wet+clutch

[1972mercury]

After looking at it closer my adjuster nut was screwed in to much that was pushing it out. Loosened it then the pressure plate came back in. So now I have the 3 arrows lined up withe the pressure plate, I got the adjuster nut lightly seated with the push rod, and got the clutch lever adjusted right got it back together last night still the same thing...the only other thing I can think of is the clutches are bad but when I put them back in they were not warped and there was no way of telling if they were good or not cause the motor had to be tore apart from when I first bought it. Can they look good yet but be junk or is there a way of telling?

[devilman]

i assume you don't have a manual

http://www.oscarmayer.net/atc/manuals/

[El Camexican]

You’ve got me confused. I thought the engine was in the trike, but now I see it on a bench with no pressure plate or springs, so I don’t know what you are trying to get it to do in that state of disassembly. If you are trying to get the transmission to move it can’t without the clutch being fully assembled.

Assuming it is on a bench you need to insert the pushrod into the hollow in the input shaft (the hole in the center of the shaft the clutch basket is on) press it in tight with your finger and then work the leaver that the clutch cable attaches to on the left side of the engine. The shaft should push out to the right of the engine when you work the lever and providing you are pushing on it should go back in when you release the lever. Confirm this and also that there is a round steel ball in the end of the pressure plate and well go from there.

BTW providing you have all the clutch plates in there and none are missing they are NOT the problem.

[1972mercury]

I should of mentioned that sorry but it's in the bike now that was a picture of it when I was rebuilding it. Yes right now the push rod and the ball-bearing are in the engine and I'm not sure how many clutch plates there are supposed to be? but that's what was on it when I took it apart I kept everything organized so I didn't lose anything so from those 2 pictures that's what is on the clutch right now.

[El Camexican]

Is the cover off?

[El Camexican]

I'm wondering if something didn't break, like the arm that moves the pushrod. It has to be something very simple.

[Mosh]

After looking at it closer my adjuster nut was screwed in to much that was pushing it out. Loosened it then the pressure plate came back in. So now I have the 3 arrows lined up withe the pressure plate, I got the adjuster nut lightly seated with the push rod, and got the clutch lever adjusted right got it back together last night still the same thing...the only other thing I can think of is the clutches are bad but when I put them back in they were not warped and there was no way of telling if they were good or not cause the motor had to be tore apart from when I first bought it. Can they look good yet but be junk or is there a way of telling?

Your clutch plates look smoked to me by the pics. If you pull the basket off down to the main shaft and run the trans through the gears, you will be able to tell if the internal trans is broken in most cases, just by holding the sprocket while you turn the main shaft. If the sprocket does not turn while in any gear other the neutral, then internal gears are bad.
Also, you need to check the clutch push rod and make sure that both steel ends are on the push rod. The rod is aluminum with hardened steel end pieces. They have the tendency to fall off the push rod ends, and you will not get proper clutch adjustment. Also make sure the large ball bearing is in place

[1972mercury]

Is the cover off?

No not right now

[1972mercury]

I'm wondering if something didn't break, like the arm that moves the pushrod. It has to be something very simple.

I'm pretty sure the arm isn't broken one thing I thought was strange was say if you stall the trike in a gear you can start it up in that gear yet but you have to pull the clutch in cause if you don't it will move forward. Well when I was kicking it over while in first gear without pulling in the clutch curious it wouldn't jerk forward? even when I wasn't kicking it over it was still in gear 1st and you would just push it back and forth and you could hear the engine trying to turn over until it got to the compression stroke but it just would just be a little bit harder to push and it wouldn't even lock up the tires?