California's "Black Balls"

[tripledog]

Nothing worse than a flooded "car hole". DOH!

[ironchop]

Sewer Trout habitat, right there. Good for the Eastern Desert Swamp Bats and Mexican Staring frogs from Madagascar

The fact that manbearpig is commenting on a climate/ environment thread in an online forum is priceless to me. Those of you who are SP fans know what I'm talkin about

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[knappyfeet]

Hey....how did you get in my garage?

[manbearpig]

[BOB MARLIN]

Look where the high water marks on the white cars are.

[manbearpig]

oh Hodads... it goes down hill every summer when the tourist creatures and Zonies get into town. then when its back to mostly locals, the food gets better. "Bossman" took a nap a while back. hes still sleepin. Kid took over. Ate there once since his departure. dog turds have been replaced with bum turds. newport ave is a free range mental hospital and a homeless freeloader's wet dream with bus loads of generous 'enablers' arriving hourly during the summer. should see the packs of wild street kids.. if you give a street kid a cookie... he'll ask you for an outlet to charge his iphone.

[knappyfeet]

It's just a shame. I've seen the steady downward progression of OB. It's nearly turned into a sh!thole west of Sunset Cliffs. I roll with my peeps west of Sunset but way out of my price range. I can remember when Rob Field skate park was clean and nicely run.........now.....crap. maybe I'm getting to old and grumpy.

[Scootertrash]

Scooter, one of your links regarding the ice caps is to a satirical publication. "The Daily Mail" is considered a tabloid that puts out ridiculous articles like the kind of publications you see at the checkout line at the grocery store.

No sh!t Sherlock. As much credibility as an obscure wordpress blogger with unverifiable credentials.

I'll stick with Stanford.

From post 42. RIF:

Stanford University professor Umran Inan told Popular Science that weather-control conspiracy theories were "completely uninformed," explaining that "there’s absolutely nothing we can do to disturb the Earth’s [weather] systems.

Yes, Wikipedia isn't going to be the outlet to reference in regards to something our government may be trying to cover up. Such a mainstream form of generic definitions is going to give the most common and watered down answers because it is designed for those who know nothing of the subject searched. That way when someone Googles "HAARP", they will have their curiosity satisfied and will not be lead on to dig any deeper.

Yea, and all of the verifiable cites at the end of a majority of the WIKI articles are carefully crafted behind the scenes by government operatives to cover up the coverup of their coverup. Right

I briefly spent some time yesterday catching up on HAARP and as I said, it's a generally well accepted theory that HAARP is indeed being used to control the weather. You can watch expert after expert or read of very credible people who have all speculated on it and agree that HAARP is much more than what our government is currently admitting.

So our government lies to the people, but admits they can control the weather (a lie?), but doesn't admit just how much they can control the weather? Or have they? Or not? Lying to cover a lie?

If Wikipedia is the be-all end-all for you and you think that's enough and all you need to know, then that's fine. I like to delve deeper, I like to find out what's really going on.

If you call obscure blogs and pseudo-celebrities pushing conspiracy theories reliable information, then have at it

It is not Doug's responsibility to educate you on this subject, it is your own responsibility if you'd like to be as well informed as he is.

I asked for clarification on his post rather than make an assumption on whether he was being sarcastic or not. I don't know chop personally, but I do know he is capable of some wittily sarcastic posts. I asked for clarification to be sure. Asking for clarification does not equal asking for an education. As intelligent as you claim to be I would think you'd know the difference.

I'll gladly help if I can.

Making assumptions, twisting others words, and insulting others intelligence is not help.

Remember, your government lies for a living.

I'm well aware of governmental lying, no need to remind me.

And yet you can't seem to make the connection of the government funded studies that provide money to Universities that promote the government agenda to ensure more funding to the tune of millions?

A link to Wikipedia is beneath this discussion.

But a Wiki link is valid and good enough to post in your sig?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunn...3Kruger_effect

How telling:

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein relatively unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability to be much higher than is accurate.

Once you get rid of your wood burning stoves and diesel trucks and start driving a Prius or some other hybrid, I'll believe that you are truly concerned about the environment. Until then it's all a bunch of BS. We already have one AL Gore.

[ironchop]

I am very sarcastic, this much is true. Honestly , from my point of view, Scooter and John are usually on the same page as to where problem lies and how to fix it, they just ideologically disagree on who to blame. My wife and I do the same thing. I think we are both intelligent, she more than I, but sometimes we end up arguing points with each other that are parallel to one another but in the excitement, we misunderstood each other and thought we were on opposing sides of the topic when we weren't.

Scooter, I knew you were just asking for clarification as to what I think the agenda behind investing billions in developing HAARP really was and I hope my answer was clear enough. In a nutshell, I don't see a correlation between HAARP and pushing a climate agenda but I neither trust my Federal Imperial Emperor and his minions nor do I think for a minute that it didn't yet occur to them to use HAARP for that very reason. I can't say if it isn't being used for that reason that it wouldn't evolve into that at some point down the road. I just haven't read enough so-called evidence to prove anything to that effect.

As for who is trustworthy whereas any media outlet is concerned in my personal opinion? Nobody. We live in an age where agenda drives everything. There's agenda-driven news on the mainstream pipeline and there's Alt-news outlets who also have an agenda which isn't always about Truth for the sake of itself but also corrupted by an agenda of discrediting other news organizations and the talking heads that depend on them. I think everyone should be suspicious of anything anyone else writes, films, says, or photographs these days.

I know that sounds paranoid but its really just being reasonable. In my day, we were taught to question everything and especially authority. Now that might have also been a way to push a hippie-marxist revolution by Berkeley Lefties but its just good personal policy. Now thirty short years later, we are taught to question nothing especially authority and asked to accept innuendo and opinion as fact or reality. Total reversal. Scary indeed.

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[Scootertrash]

I agree 100% with your post 'chop.

In my short 55 years time on this rock, I've come to believe one thing:

"Follow the money"

[Scootertrash]

^^^ Please don`t ever go away scooter.......i love you......what is it about Fabio that makes you so attracted to him ? .......is it his body ?........maybe he has a Twisted Sister pin on his uniform ?

It's a pledge pin Mister!




It's the flowing locks and the love of a bovine friendly alternative to butter

[El Camexican]

http://news.yahoo.com/carbon-pricing...210047364.html

Reading this I would say a Fart Tax is inevitable. I hope it works as well as carbon and cigarette taxes have. I for one can tell the air is fresher every time someone pays $15.00 bucks for a pack of Player Light's up North. I suggest everyone invest in bottled air stocks before they become as vogue as bottle water that comes in plastic bottles that will be discovered by whatever next evolves out of the radioactive trees we'll leave behind.

Rolling Coal? Catching on everywhere!

[tripledog]

DOH! Say it ain't so, EC. A fart tax would bankrupt me!

[El Camexican]

DOH! Say it ain't so, EC. A fart tax would bankrupt me!

I'm more worried about the government's union labor people hired under the strictest of reverse discrimination codes installing the fart detector in my azz than the cost itself. An under qualified Syrian transvestite Muslim liberal with cold hands comes to mind.

[tripledog]

I'm more worried about the government's union labor people hired under the strictest of reverse discrimination codes installing the fart detector in my azz than the cost itself. An under qualified Syrian transvestite Muslim liberal with cold hands comes to mind.

Thanks for that. I was going to snag a pre-midnight snack, but after reading your post I have lost my appetite...