Welding 101

[Mosh]

I have a Miller 211, and it is a fantastic machine. Honestly, unless you intend to weld 1/2" steel, you don't really need anything else. Even with 1/2" steel I think it would be perfectly fine, especially preheating the steel with a torch; wouldn't do 1/2" exclusively though, just when you NEEDED to do it. But, I have found that for just about any job, 110v and .023 wire will weld just about anything. I have been mostly using it for body work and exhaust systems, but, I do use 220v with .035 wire on occasion. On 110v, you can weld ATV frames with ease. Have also done some aluminum with it (have the spool gun) and it does take some getting used to. I do have a small aluminum project that I need to get to that will give me a better handle on it. It gives you the best of three worlds: 110v/220v/aluminum.

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I Have a lincoln 140 just like the one 3wd bought, and there is nothing I have found it will not do for me.
I use a lot of flux core stuff, just because it is a PITA sometimes keeping gas in stock. A crazy good welder taught me you better be able to flux core weld because there are applications where its needed. Like outside in the wind, or your run out of gas on a sunday and live in BFE and have to get a job finished etc, and if you can lay a clean bead with flux core, your gas welds really look good.

I use the same machine at work on the bottle as well. If most of your fab work stays at 3/16ths and below that model works great.

[90nut]

I agree with mosh, I keep a roll of flux core in the tool box just in case. But I also have an extra argon tank to. Yea, i try to be over prepared!

[loganm]

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Once again, you are attempting to sound like a know it all and "school" people you know absolutely nothing about . . I said I am not a great welder but I did not say I know nothing about welding, and based on your info, I started welding around 35 years before you did.

I would not build a skyscraper so your analogy doesn't apply to me, PLUS, they actually use MIG welders in most construction these days and have been for many years.

I suggest if you are going to attempt to make a point, you should study up a little bit BEFORE you try and make one, especially since your batting average here in the last 2 days has been pretty low.

Some people prefer to live in the stone age and use stone age tools, and others do not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p4tUj0EOGg
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Once again you're taking everything WAYYYYYY the wrong way. Jezus H bud. If you can't weld stick you don't have to hate on it. I'd like to see you lay down ANYTHING talking that much . Stick welding will never die. Too versatile and too simple/convenient. It's a fuking EXAMPLE. You think everything is that simple that's ridiculous.

You got a problem go ahead and say it.

onformula don't go buying a tombstone if you already have a tig. All tig welders can run stick, you could run AC TIG with a tombstone if you REALLY wanted to. Go out in the real world and tell a real welder stick is useless. Lmao. Get your sht pushed in gramps.

[ironchop]

My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.

And they're like "its better than yours"

Damn right its better than yours.

I could teach you but I would have to charge.


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[shovelryder]

Annnnnnd......Here we go....DeJavu all over again.....

[3 Wheel Drive]

Annnnnnd......Here we go....DeJavu all over again.....

It may be time for a new thread:


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[loganm]

YES they can weld buildings with mig, or fluxcore. Almost anything CAN be done. You can hook a tig torch up to an AC Miller legend and TIG aluminum if you really want to. I don't know why this is an argument. I've been to school and worked in the industry. I'm just here to spread my knowledge and experience and learn from others'. Not trying to start fights.

I think it's kind of funny that a forum dedicated to vintage "out of date" 3 wheelers is so against a vintage "out of date" welding process. Although MIG has been around for a long time too. I'm just a stick welding purist. Different processes for different applications.

Currently adapting an old fiat allis loader bucket to a CAT 924k. Using the loader arms to make the hooks and latch. Had to do 2 full pens to make the hooks one solid piece. I can upload pics of my work of any of you doubt me.

[3 Wheel Drive]

[barnett468]

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Once again you're taking everything WAYYYYYY the wrong way. Jezus H bud.

I don't think so . . If you go back and read everyone's post from your first thread on your seized 250r, you will see that I put in a lot of time and effort trying to help you, and you kept coming back with what sure seemed like somewhat uppity replies, but I didn't say ANYTHING about it until several other people got on you for it, and even then, none of my replies were as "direct" as others were because I just hoped it would help you realize that everyone was there to help you, not attack you like you seemed to think they were.

If you can't weld stick you don't have to hate on it.

I can stick weld but I'm not great at because I never did it long enough and consistently enough . . I can also gas weld and mig weld, and can tig weld both steel and aluminum and cast iron, and a tig welder is the one i used the most and did so several times a week for several years.

I'd like to see you lay down ANYTHING talking that much .

Sorry, but I have no idea what this means.

Stick welding will never die. Too versatile and too simple/convenient.

Your statement below seems to contradict the one above regarding stick weldings simplicity, but I do agree that stick welding will never completely die out, however, as I have proven, it's used less nowadays than it previously was, and there is a very good reason for that.

MIG and TIG are far easier IMO. IMO it's far easier to put down a 2F or 1G to specs with MIG than stick.

You think everything is that simple that's ridiculous.

Sorry, but I don know what this means either, but I never said anything was simple, but I sure wish at least one thing was.

You got a problem go ahead and say it.

I don't have any problem at all other than what I mentioned long after many other people did on your previous thread . . Below is a good example . . You may simply be trying to be humorous with no ill intent by telling onformula1 to "go out in the real world", then following that with "Lmao" and calling him "gramps", and telling him he will get his "sht pushed in" etc, but the person on the receiving end of this may interpret it otherwise, and it is comments like this that can create problems which no one here wants or needs.

onformula don't go buying a tombstone if you already have a tig. All tig welders can run stick, you could run AC TIG with a tombstone if you REALLY wanted to. Go out in the real world and tell a real welder stick is useless. Lmao. Get your sht pushed in gramps.

I can guarantee you this...if you simply tone down the rhetoric, as in the additional comments I pointed out above which were unnecessary and not helpful in any way, you will not receive any negative comments from anyone, at which point you should not feel that you are being attacked . . We like new people and want many more to join, and want for this to be an environment where everyone can feel they are welcome and safe from ridicule etc, because this sht is supposed to be FUN!


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[loganm]

TECHNICALLY they can. But stick is what you will find being used the vast majority of the time.

[barnett468]

I'm just here to spread my knowledge and experience and learn from others'. Not trying to start fights. I think it's kind of funny that a forum dedicated to vintage "out of date" 3 wheelers is so against a vintage "out of date" welding process.

Well, there are actually s a LOT of people on this site that modify their vintage bikes just like many people modify vintage cars, with stroker engines and fuel injection and better suspension and tires and brakes etc so the main thing that is still orig is the body which has cool and unique styling, which is one of the main reasons people buy vintage bikes and cars etc . . Some people also like them box stock, however, just because people like vintage cars or bikes etc, it does not mean that they want to weld them using vintage tools and antiquated techniques.

Although MIG has been around for a long time too. I'm just a stick welding purist.

No one is picking on you for that, and I am pretty sure that you can stick weld just as well as most anyone here and probably even better than than most, and I have seen expert stick welders and appreciate the amount of skill it takes to do that compared to mig welding, cuz like I mentioned, I can stick weld but I suck at it so I know how difficult it is to learn . . I also know how ridiculously easy mig welding is to learn in comparison, and it I can mig weld, I know that anyone can easily learn how to do it.

Currently adapting an old fiat allis loader bucket to a CAT 924k. Using the loader arms to make the hooks and latch. Had to do 2 full pens to make the hooks one solid piece. I can upload pics of my work of any of you doubt me.

Nobody doubts you, and you don't need to prove anything to anyone in life because what others believe is irrelevant, however, we are geeks for photos of pretty much anything and would therefore love to see "almost" anything you care to post.

[83ATC185]

Nice setup 3WD i really should invest in one seeing as how i have enough use for one, although i haven't used a mig since 09 and it was attached to an ABB robot

If i could do it manually with the controller, i'm sure the curve isn't too steep for learning by hand. Welding body panels with a stick is next to impossible. For me anyway.

You might, depending on how much it costs now, invest in some Abicor Binzel anti-spatter if you plan on doing a lot of welding. Good stuff. The non aerosol works the best. Makes tip

cleaning a breeze.

[briano]

If you ever want a good 100% duty cycle stick welder just look up "weldernator" and build one. I have a 130 amp dodge alternator running off an 8 horse power snowblower motor and it will burn clean through a 1/2 inch plate on the highest heat setting that I have. Or it will weld 16 gauge steel on the lowest setting. I have a car heater switch to adjust the power output, and can find tune it with the engine rpm's. Simple setup that I built on a cart for less than $200. Plus I can throw it in the back of my truck and weld anywhere. You can even hook up a TIG torch to it.

[shovelryder]

OK......We need a diversion......DONT weld galvinised in a closed garage!!!!! LOL!!!!! You will get incredibly sick!.....Carry on!

[atc300r]

I have a 90 amp flux core wire feed welder from Harbor freight. it was about $90. My wife and sons got it for me for a gift.Out of respect for 3 wheeldrive I deleted my other post .