Evans waterless coolant

[pervO]

Has anyone thought of running the Evans waterless coolant? stuff is expensive but never breaks down and keeps the temps cooler.

[greenhaze20]

I have always wanted to but not sure if it would work or cause problems. Hopefully someone out there has been a test pilot.


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[Mickey Dunlap]

Best coolant you will ever buy, my GNCC race team rane it because the rad could get plugged with mud and it would still finish the race. Yes it would run hotter but wouldn't blow the cap.

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[barnett468]

There are very few apps for it where it will perform "better" than standard coolant . It is nothing more than a combination of Ethylene glycol and Propylene glycol with the usual anti freeze additives . You can basically make your own for around 1/3rd the cost . If your cooling system runs high enough pressure to cause it to overflow and your bike is properly tuned, you can simply try a higher pressure rad cap . That is what they are designed for . Rocky Mountain and some other places sell them.

NASCAR uses straight water.

Also, ignition timing has an affect on operating temps, and if the timing is not optimum for an engine, it will can make it run hotter than it otherwise would.



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[Mickey Dunlap]

It's a waterless coolant so it doesn't boil over until 350*. We did a bunch of R&D work for GAS GAS on there 450 4 stroke. They couldn't keep it from over heating, they had hot spots in their head castings, this kept the hot spots from happening. With out the water in it you get better cooling and no steam pockets. That's the only thing we changed, now pretty much all the GNCC race teams use it. Buy it, it works. It's nothing like the other coolants that put a few drops of dish soap in plain old anti freeze.

[barnett468]

It is nearly exactly like other coolants except they simply don't use water.



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[Mickey Dunlap]

It is nearly exactly like other coolants except they simply don't use water.



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The waterless is the key, doesn't boil over as soon so you can finish races, but even more so better cooling due to no steam pockets. It is by far the best thing on the market!!

[Rob Canadian]

Interesting stuff.

I was just yakking with a member here about coolant and what people run. Mixtures etc.

Back in the day 1987 I was helping a friend in racing Go carts. He was running a CR125 engine. We just ran water with Water Wetter in it.

I can see some advantages of the Evans stuff.

[350for350]

Dang Mickey. I've looked and looked and I still can't see where you put the coolant in that trike in your first post!

[ダースレーザー 250R]

I've been using engine ice, I'll have to give this waterless stuff a look.

[barnett468]

The waterless is the key, doesn't boil over as soon so you can finish races, but even more so better cooling due to no steam pockets. It is by far the best thing on the market!!

I am well aware that that water can sometimes create steam/lack of contact with the metal in some areas in some cases on some engines which can create localized hot spots, however, I have never failed to finish a race due to overheating and neither has anyone that I know that rode for Kawi etc and it seems that zillions of other racers have also seemed to cross the finish line without botique $30.00 a gallon waterless antifreeze.

If someone wants to use waterless antifreeze the can simply run straight conventional antifreeze and it will in fact perform nearly, or exactly, the same way Evans does but it will cost them as little as $10.50 a gallon at Wallyworld.



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[3 Wheel Drive]

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[Mickey Dunlap]

I am well aware that that water can sometimes create steam/lack of contact with the metal in some areas in some cases on some engines which can create localized hot spots, however, I have never failed to finish a race due to overheating and neither has anyone that I know that rode for Kawi etc and it seems that zillions of other racers have also seemed to cross the finish line without botique $30.00 a gallon waterless antifreeze.

If someone wants to use waterless antifreeze the can simply run straight conventional antifreeze and it will in fact perform nearly, or exactly, the same way Evans does but it will cost them as little as $10.50 a gallon at Wallyworld.



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And you never raced a muddy 2 hour GNCC national with your rad half covered in mud, or run your Kawasaki Teryx in the sand. There are some times when you need the xtra cooling, and no just antifreeze does not work the same as EVAN's.

[barnett468]

And you never raced a muddy 2 hour GNCC national with your rad half covered in mud, or run your Kawasaki Teryx in the sand. There are some times when you need the extra cooling,...

Well, you actually have no idea of everything I have done, therefore, I suggest that you stop making assumptions and statements of any kind about me . I was a PRO motocross racer before I was a PRO 3 and 4 wheel racer and rode countless times in heavy mud at Saddleback and Carlsbad and elsewhere, and I also rode many Grand Prixs which were typically in the winter and it typically rained and was often muddy.

I also raced horrendously muddy 3 wheeler races like the Perris Grand Prix where it also rained all day . It was a 2 or 3 hour team race that I rode with Jimmie White and Donnie Luce at James Degaines request whom was the manager of Team Green at the time, however, Jimmie started and holeshot the race and we led from start to finish so there wasn't a bunch of bikes throwing mud in the rads but they still got extremely muddy and we never cleaned them off, and we not only finished the race without overheating, we won it and team honda was there so it wasn't like we could go easy on the bike and just cruise to the win.

In addition, I also know for a fact that Kawi did not use waterless coolant in any of their factory MX bikes while I was there and all the factory riders raced hundreds of races in heavy mud and their rads got filled with mud and they still not only seemed to finish the races using just 50/50 coolant, they also won many National Championships.

Kawasaki also didn't use waterless coolant in Larry Roesslers bikes and he is one of the winningest desert racers of all time.

There are some times when you need the extra cooling,...

I suggest you read my previous posta again very carefully . I never said that there was absolutely no benefit whatsoever to using a waterless coolant and I did not question the results of the testing you said you did, therefore, I really don't know why you seem to be trying to defend waterless coolant so adamantly.



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[barnett468]

....and no just antifreeze does not work the same as EVAN's.

Please explain in detail for us how you know this and please also post any documents such as MSDS's and/or scientific and/or personal test results that support your claim so that we can learn something new.



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