200es big red 1985

[soda]

200es big red can't get to full throttle just bogs out help

[atctim]

Remove carb - remove jets - clean jets, re install jets, reinstall carb, give her a go - sounds like a dirty carb problem to me!

[coolpool]

Plugged fuel filter limiting flow? or collapsed fuel line?

[soda]

had carb of no dirt in at all and fress fuel in tank

[soda]

it has new fuel line al clean filter in tank and try again

[Thorpe]

Remove carb - remove jets - clean jets, re install jets, reinstall carb, give her a go - sounds like a dirty carb problem to me!

The ES carbs are finicky with the smallest bit of crud in them... I had to take mine apart twice and rebuild it to get it running correctly. Also, double check and make certain the jets are correct size. I got a rebuild kit once with the wrong main jet (way too big)

Are you sure what machine you have? There wasnt a 200ES in 1985... 1985 was the first year of the 250ES

[soda]

put new jets in carb still the same tryed mates carb still no joy .it is a 1985 200es

[Thorpe]

I would start looking at timing, and also making sure the exhaust isnt plugged... Mice have created plenty of problems in exhaust systems....

[soda]

ive moved the timing pulse rotor still runs the same. it runs good on half choke

[Thorpe]

How is the exhaust? If it runs decent on half choke, it leads me to believe you need to fatten up your jets.... (it isnt a former "high altitude" machine is it?)

[hublake]

If it is a 85 200es it is the first one I heard of.

[soda]

not had exhaust of yet waiting on new cobar exhaust on way. it has a 95 main jet ,just notice inhibiter realey missing

[old honda dealr]

He is wrong on either the year or the model. Need correct info before you start asking for advice. >< As stated before 84 is a 200es 85 is a 250es COMPLETELY different bikes .Otherwise post pics of the VIN tag

[Thorpe]

In Soda's defense, I do believe that in other parts of the world, Honda did infact make a 85 200es... (not positive, but thought I read into that here on the forum somewhere...) Sure would like to see a picture or two!

[soda]

the bike is a 1985 200es the only differance is the stickers on the tank and back mud gards

[thestud25]

the bike is a 1985 200es the only differance is the stickers on the tank and back mud gards
Post up some pics.

[soda]

put new exhaust on still the same dont no what to do now will get some pics soon

[Atcguy.]

try a new spark plug buy a brand new carb see if your intake manifold is dirty warm it up then ride it check valves tune the damn thing try some nitro fuel is your gas tank rusty? if it is it wont run right does the float work if gas tank is rusty go to a raditor shop have thewm dip and seal for 65$ its worth it

[soda]

tryed new spark plug, tank not got any rust in side al buy new carb soon and cdi pulser see if that helps

[atctim]

There were never any 1985 200ES models in the USA - but in the UK and other countries there are 1985 ATC200ES Models.

When you had the carb off Did you remove all of the jets - and can you see light through them?

[Russell 350X]

Order a carb rebuild kit and install it, all new o-rings, jets, needle, etc. Adjust the valves also. I believe on the Honda 200 engines it is .003 or .002 on either exhaust or intake valves. Sounds like a very simple problem. Is your petcock flowing fuel freely?

[Atcguy.]

if its bogging at full how does it idle? it might just e as simple if you have to much oil in your crank change it your clutch? tune it that helps alot! set it back to factory specs

[3Wheel_Gunner]

In for pics of an '85 Big Red 200es

[dirtdemon]

is it a solid rear end or does it have shocks

[soda]

i live in north of scotland ive seen about 5 1985 200es now



carb jets clean you can see throught them

[soda]

its just had carb rebuild not long ago didnt help, ive Adjust the valves dont no how meny times and fuel flowing sound

[soda]

it starts first pull with no choke and will tick over all and idle perfect

[soda]

no shocks at rear it just the same as 1984 200es

[atctim]

What aboutthe coil - you could run some tests on the coil to see if it in spec.

[soda]

did test coil getting rite spec even tryed diffrent coil still the same

[200XMichigan]

You said earlier it runs good on 1/2 choke. So it really has to be a fuel problem. Did you try setting it a little richer than factory specs. Did you spray out all the passages with compressed air or aerosol carb cleaner? Could just still have some gunk in it. Or an air leak into the fuel system, between the carb and the head would also cause it to run lean. If it runs good with some choke its just running too lean. Don't mess with all the electrical and everything else until you know your fuel system is 100%.

[reddawg85]

lets see the year and model plate under tank on the frame..please very interested in seeing

[dear140]

atctim sounds right to me.

[Atcguy.]

you know maybe we could hlp you fix it if you just posted some darn pics

[3Wheel_Gunner]

you know maybe we could hlp you fix it if you just posted some darn pics

I think there may be a reason we have seen pictures;)

[soda]

As You are determined that no pictures exsist of a 1985 model 200es please follow the link and all will become clear. These pictures are not of my bike but are to prove that I am not imagining this model exsists.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=330453385462 or if that link does not work try this one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-Big-Red-200es-1985-Trike-spares-repairs-/330453385462?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item4cf08e80f6 or check out my album

Hope this helps solve the mystery.

Enjoy :-)