how do i start this thing???

[dear140]

hey guys i just put a carb on a free ytm ipicked up and coneected the fuel lines and such and when i pull it over it doesnt do any thin. is there anything i can do to make it start?

[fabiodriven]

Bring it to a mechanic.

[84honda200s]

what ytm do you have ?

[Xpress]

You pulled it over once, and it didn't start? Sounds like you need to pull it over a few more times........

[dear140]

1984 ytm 200e shaft.

[dksix]

Try a little more info. When you pull it it does nothing. Does that mean it doesn't turn over, doesn't fire, doesn't start? You replaced the carb, was the carb missing, you were told it needed replaced, is it the correct carb for the bike? Do you have spark, have you checked compression. There are guys here that can tell you exactly what's wrong (I'm not one of them) if you give them enough info.

[Russell 350X]

Yes we need more info...not just that you tryed starting it and nothing happened.

[dear140]

it turns over fine just doesnt fire a bit.100percent right carb vm22sh. bout to check spark. dont have compression gauge.let you know if i got spark.

[RodKnockRacing]

is it really easy to pull if so may be a compression issue

[dear140]

no its not really easy. just like a normal machine. just checked do have spark.changed oil as well.

[84atc200]

is there fuel getting to the carb?

[dear140]

yes for sure.through the lil two piece hose thing.

[tri again]

if it trys to run with a little dose of starting fluid, you'll know which direction to concentrate on.

spark at the right time is the first thing I check..after the oil, of course.

[Russell 350X]

Have you pulled the carb off to clean it? I would get a rebuild that carb.

[Mr lovebucket]

i just cleaned the carb on my ytm 225 prob the same idea as yours when i put it back together i put the float in upsidedown which stoped the float chamber getting any petrol. i never knew what way to put it in as its oval both ends. make sure its not the same with you.

[dear140]

lol ill clean carb. i do have spark. checked the petcock isnt clogged.idk which way float goes in but ill look at a blown up diagram n check.

[dainpstewart]

have you adjusted the carb at all yet? i dont know about yamahas because i have never had, or worked on one, but turn the needles in all the way, making sure that you dont torque them in, and bring them out 1 to 2 turns, and work it from there...also, make sure its not in gear and give it a bit of throttle while pulling it. dont know if this will help, but yeah, thats all i got.

[harryredtrike]

a motor needs fuel, spark,timing, and compression .eliminate them one at time till you find the culprit

[dear140]

got spark, fuel, and compression. idk about timing. is the float supposed to be able to go up n down freely?

[atctim]

yes - the float should operate up and down freely - this is what fills the carb bowl with gas - it is like the same concept at in the back of your toilet under the top lid.

put a little gas down the spark plug hole and see if it will fire.

[harryredtrike]

got spark, fuel, and compression. idk about timing. is the float supposed to be able to go up n down freely?

fuel in the tank does not mean fuel in the combustion chamber

[dear140]

how can i check to see if its in combustion chamber? i tried fuel in spark plug hole. no fire. got a new NGK plug got no spark for some reason no spark. old spark has spark new one doesnt... cdi someone said? thanks for your activity everyone.

[harryredtrike]

what the numbers on the new plug,did you gap it?should be ngk d7ea right

[dear140]

Yup its a D7EA. pre gapped.NGK of course. just cleaned carb it is and was clean. but just gumouted it to make sure. should my inlet valve be able to come in n out super easily? like if i tip the body upside down the inlet valve falls out.

[dear140]

oh and my plug isnt wet. when its in n i pull it over.

[84atc200]

Then you're not getting fuel into the cylinder.You may have to adjust your floats.

[dear140]

i adjusted my float drastically down and up. seems to make no difference.

[dear140]

alright guys my carb is clean, fuels getting in there. i have spark. and it pulls over with the same amount of pressure as my other machine so i dont think its a compression issue. i dont know what to do next. tried gas in the cylinder, starting fluid in cylinder and on air filter. i just dont know which way to turn on this.

[krazykane]

try to pop start by pulling it with another machine

[fabiodriven]

^^^That'll fix everything.^^^

[Xpress]

Lol yeah, if it doesn't fire up that way, then it's not firing at all :p

[dear140]

alright im only 15 n dont know much so i know ill tow it with my lil 110 n have it in neutral obv then just have someone pull the coil thats on the ytm while were goin?

[84atc200]

put it in neutral till you get rolling then put it in gear, give it a little gas. if its going to start at all it will then.

[83ATC185]

sounds like someones gonna get hurt...

[dear140]

ya i can just picture my self goin down hill and then poppin it into 1st and goin over the handlebars. n even if it did work i dont want a rig that has to roll start every time. idk what to do im on th verge of givin up.

[3wheelmecca]

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php?118578-Bike-wont-start-READ-THIS!-Four-Stroke-General-ATV-Troubleshooting-guide
Utilize this, it will help you.

[fabiodriven]

Wow. I must say, the idiocy in here is reaching epic proportions.

First of all, pop starting the thing is not going to help anything. If you insist on trying to pop start it, at least do it the right way. Getting it rolling and jamming it in first gear is not the way to do it. That's more than likely just going to bring the trike to a halt really fast and possibly damage your transmission. I'm pretty sure the trike you're working on is a semi-auto, right? What you're going to want to do is get the trike into third gear. When clicking the shifter into third gear hold the shifter up once third gear is engaged. Then get the trike rolling and release the shifter once the desired amount of speed is achieved to start the trike. What you are doing here is popping the clutch instead of jamming the transmission in gear.

All of you hacks can treat your own machines the way you want. Is there any way you guys could keep your awful ideas to yourselves instead of infecting young minds with your ignorance please?

Personally, I suggest fixing your problem with the trike so it starts with the starter.

[84atc200]

I appologize for wording it incorrectly,when i said neutral i meant in between gears.So i'm sorry

[84atc200]

Wow. I must say, the idiocy in here is reaching epic proportions.

First of all, pop starting the thing is not going to help anything. If you insist on trying to pop start it, at least do it the right way. Getting it rolling and jamming it in first gear is not the way to do it. That's more than likely just going to bring the trike to a halt really fast and possibly damage your transmission. I'm pretty sure the trike you're working on is a semi-auto, right? What you're going to want to do is get the trike into third gear. When clicking the shifter into third gear hold the shifter up once third gear is engaged. Then get the trike rolling and release the shifter once the desired amount of speed is achieved to start the trike. What you are doing here is popping the clutch instead of jamming the transmission in gear.

All of you hacks can treat your own machines the way you want. Is there any way you guys could keep your awful ideas to yourselves instead of infecting young minds with your ignorance please?

Personally, I suggest fixing your problem with the trike so it starts with the starter.

All i have to say is i realize my wording was poor,and i didn't describe what to do well enough. I'm not going to newb out on you lol, you know more than i do i'm sure.

[dear140]

haha alright guys. i wasnt about to pop it in1st because that wldvebeen suicidal. my grandpa says it could be the points in it? is this correct? i have spark, weak butt i got it, but the spark plug isnt wet so im not getting fuel to the cylinder. what would that be?

[dear140]

oh also does this ytm need a battery for full spark?

[83ATC185]

how much are you pulling the starter before you check the plug for fuel? pull it 4 or 5 times with the choke on. if the plug is wet with fuel, id think youre getting enough. Also, cup your hand over the intake and pull it two or three times with the choke on. if your hand is wet, your geting fuel to the carb at least. Not having battery shouldnt affect how it runs. Is your plug gapped correctly? Have you checked the coil ground? make sure all your connections are clean. Theres not a whole lot to go on here...

[briano]

sell it to someone that can get it running and appreciate having an ol trike and take care of it. Time to find a new hobby.

[84atc200]

I would after all this time take fabiodriven's original advice, take it to a mechanic

[krazykane]

i guess my ignorance shows i have popped all kinds of bikes and trike with no prob i guess i should have given them detailed directions how i would do it but i guess that would still be wrong in some poeples eyes .

[MudBug]

make sure the spark is strong and blue, and consistent.

make sure the plug is wet when you pull it out (cyl. getting fuel)

put your thumb over the spark plug hole and pull the bike over (or someone else) If you cant keep your thumb on it without it popping off, you have too low compression to start the bike.

[83ATC185]

go basic then work your way up to the more complicated stuff. i have tried to start a bike of 15 minutes looking for why it wouldnt start and come to find out one of the killswitch wires had rubbed bald and was touching the frame

[dear140]

i dont have themoney to do that. they charge 55 an hour plus stealer ship parts! n briano im not finding a new hobby you asshole.

[dear140]

oh and it has a ton of compression, my thumb doesnt get wet so its not getting fuel to the cylinder... what would this be?

[Ironbnder]

i dont have themoney to do that. they charge 55 an hour plus stealer ship parts! n briano im not finding a new hobby you asshole.

You really are only 15 years old.

[83ATC185]

oh and it has a ton of compression, my thumb doesnt get wet so its not getting fuel to the cylinder... what would this be?

it could be you need to sell it to me for 20 dollars. your bike may never start. you would make 20 dollars.

[briano]

You have a fuel problem, simple to figure out. Gas in the tank, if yes check for gas at carb. If no fuel in carb there is something wrong between tank and carb. Fuel in carb and not in cylinder, something wrong between carb and cylinder, are the intake valves opening, are the jets plugged, was this bike sitting and something made a nest in the intake tube, laugh all you want about the nest but it has happened to me. Some kids need to figure things out themselves, I am 32 and have been working on my own stuff since I was 10. Nobody just told me how to do something or where to start, I learned the hard way and I am glad that I did because now I am not afraid to tackle any mechanical type of project. I used to go pick up free snowmobiles and other junk with engines on them just to try to make them run. I may be an asshole but I am a smart one because I am self taught with pretty much everything I do, welding, fab work, mechanic, etc. I am a noob on this site also, but I have been looking for a while and it seems that lately there are sooooo many newcomers with the same questions that have been answered so many times, now there are threads on what to look for to get your bikes running, search them, or do some other research before you ask the same thing that has been on here 50 times. Find someone that can help you that can come over to your house and actually show you what to look for, reading how to clean a carb and doing it are two different things.

[harryredtrike]

You have a fuel problem, simple to figure out. Gas in the tank, if yes check for gas at carb. If no fuel in carb there is something wrong between tank and carb. Fuel in carb and not in cylinder, something wrong between carb and cylinder, are the intake valves opening, are the jets plugged, was this bike sitting and something made a nest in the intake tube, laugh all you want about the nest but it has happened to me. Some kids need to figure things out themselves, I am 32 and have been working on my own stuff since I was 10. Nobody just told me how to do something or where to start, I learned the hard way and I am glad that I did because now I am not afraid to tackle any mechanical type of project. I used to go pick up free snowmobiles and other junk with engines on them just to try to make them run. I may be an asshole but I am a smart one because I am self taught with pretty much everything I do, welding, fab work, mechanic, etc. I am a noob on this site also, but I have been looking for a while and it seems that lately there are sooooo many newcomers with the same questions that have been answered so many times, now there are threads on what to look for to get your bikes running, search them, or do some other research before you ask the same thing that has been on here 50 times. Find someone that can help you that can come over to your house and actually show you what to look for, reading how to clean a carb and doing it are two different things.

thats exactly my story.if i broke something my dad would say ill look at on the weekend,but i was impatient and learned to do it myself

[dear140]

thats what happened with me. my dads actually a chief mechanic, working 10 hrs a day plus having 13 apartments with always something to do on them. its not like the old days tho i cant find a snowmobile for free, there are almost no junkyards either. my dads 55 and tells me about how he used to get old rusty cars and race them in the woods with his friends. that sounds so much better than my generation where all the kids are dishonest and play their dumb xboxes or ps3's.n ya he showe me how to clean a carb and put jets back where they were and stuff. but i love this hobby and maybe im starting late but im not stoppin. also i just mounted 2 tires and it was hard with crappy tirespoons and 1 leaks air slowly any tricks to get it to seal tightly?

[Pinscher62]

This has got to be the funniest thread ever. I'm dyin over here.
I would like to say a couple things though. I may be new to this forum but I am in no way new to forums in general. And one thing I do know is that there are always lots of people coming into them asking questions that have already been asked hundreds, maybe thousands of times before. But that is just part of a forum and (like it or not) that is also a big thing that keeps them actiive and growing with new members. Some people just want to talk things through and if they feel thier situation is unique and want to talk it through in person with the people who are supposed to be the experts, more power to them. Isnt this site all about sharing our love for the hobby with others and growing a bigger fan base of ATC lovers? So excuse me for saying it but, let him talk and quit bitching about it! If you dont like the thread, find another one. Let the young man talk, listen and learn. Isnt that what this is all about?
Dear140, keep at it and never give up. You will find it sooner or later and learn a real good lesson when you do. It only gets easier next time. Please keep us updated. Most of the wise cracks are in good fun and we all want to see that beast blast down the road again.
Later

[dear140]

thanks for the advice.and ya you guys can expect basic question in trikeslavania. if trailprotrailpro all the best mechanics go to the mad scientists lair. i come here to get help and people complain? i guess it makes sense if youve heard the same question a hundred times but any mechanic will get the basic questions asked a lot to him. idk about my fuel problem im tryinto figure it out. took out petcock its not clogged i think that the two piece hose with the one way valve that goes from my tank to the carb isnt getting enough for some reason.

[Xpress]

i come here to get help and people complain

We've tried to help, and you still whine at us. We've given all the help we can! The internet may be able to connect us all, but that's through a big ass wire. There's some problems where you need to be in person to figure out.

[dear140]

alright. i was never whining. you took it that way tho. and even after all of this bs illl thank you guys plenty. i do appreciate your time even though a lot of comments were stupid. i think ytm will be sitting by itself for a while until another 3wheeler nut comes by n makes me an offer.

[harryredtrike]

this thing is not running yet?