back breaks stuck!

[110ccatc]

Okay so i believe i got a 185s, there is a tag on the body, or i am looking in the wrong spot. when you push the bake break to the point it cant go farther and the break is full in, it doesnt want to come back, the back break i believe is stuck and thats why it wont roll.

how do i either disengage or take off the bake break till i get a new cable?

[fabiodriven]

Go to the actuation arm. That's the arm on the rear end that the cable attaches to and actually makes the brake work. Pull that arm back until the brake releases.

Are you sure the cable is the problem?

[110ccatc]

im not 100% sure the cable is the problem, whats the bets way to troubleshoot this?

[fabiodriven]

Take it apart and clean and inspect everything. Lube the cable, the brake actuation cam, and the lever. Replace worn brake shoes and inspect/replace axle bearings and seals while you're there.

First thing to remember, these are 25+ year old machines.

[110ccatc]

i fixed it not sure what this part is called, but it was jammed and pulled back all the way,

the person i bought this from has some tow hit thats on wrong and its pressing on the brake. but i got it fixed.

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[110ccatc]

also my axel s a bit loose so do i just tighten the bolts on each side of it?

[fabiodriven]

It depends on where it's loose. I'm not trying to make you feel stupid, but I can tell you're not terribly well versed in the science of trike repair. Find out where it's loose and then we can tell you what to do. If it's loose in the middle, i.e. the trike rocks side to side, you'll need new axle bearings. There is no way to take the slack out of them. When they wear out, you just replace them.

[110ccatc]

the part i have highlighted in red, the middle part if you rock it back and forth it makes a noise when it moves it slides a bit back and forth

and i know this is my second trike i only had a 110 before now a 185 or a 200, and the 110 didnt have alot of problems. once i tighten this back axle or buy a new bearing the thing is solid

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[fabiodriven]

If it's sliding back and forth (laterally) then there is a chance you can just tighten the axle nuts and be good to go. If you snug the axle nuts up and have a side to side "rocking" motion, then you need new axle bearings.

The two nuts on the right side of your picture hold the axle in secure. It is a "lock nut" setup. You back the outside one off a bit and then snug the inside one up so there is no lateral movement in the axle. Once you have it snug, tighten the outside nut back into the inside one to hold the two secure.

[Dirtcrasher]

Just remove both cables and see if the brakes work.

One of your cables may or may not be correct. I have had good luck with silicone spray on cables mounted in my vice and the moved up and down while spraying them.

Then pull the brakes apart and clean/lune inside there.

If you can get some new cables, the do so.

Honda pads are made with Elmers Glue. Once they get wet, they fall apart.

[110ccatc]

its just the lock nuts. the bearings are fine

[110ccatc]

i am going to order new bearings just so thats one less thing i have to worrie about.

is this the kind of bearings im looking for?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Atc-185-185S-ATC185-Rear-Bearing-Seal-KIT-NEW-/350395255711?pt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item51952f4b9f

[fabiodriven]

They are, but you get what you pay for.

[Howdy]

Yep, those are the bearings and seals you need. From memory here: 6007-2rs ( bearing ) and OS-1503 ( seal ) need 2 of each.
Howdy

[110ccatc]

thanks guys. i am going threw the internet and all the ones i see are like 17-20$ nothing more high duty

[fabiodriven]

Are you going to wait until your current bearings wear out to replace them? There's no real need to replace them yet if you don't have any play in them.

[110ccatc]

well its just sliding maybe half a inch to a inch one way i can still drift around haha, just not wanting to break anything

[110ccatc]

haha it will work till i order the parts... i decided to let my mom try driving it... lets say within 2 minutes she got it stuck....151732

[fabiodriven]

If it's sliding back and forth a bearing replacement isn't the cure.

[Howdy]

It's very possible a previous owner has installed a different axle that is wider. Without seeing it in person or a video of what it's doing I am at a loss.
Howdy

[MRSOUND]

^^^^What Howdy mentioned above is very feasible. Mine did the same thing except I had the wrong housing with the right axle on a 200e. Here's a link to thread. http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/143702-Help....My-rear-is-loose!-and-I-can-t-get-it-to-stop!. explains my dilemma and findings. It was my own doing due to lack of knowledge. I know now and willing to share my experience to help anyone else with the same woes. There is a pic of the difference between housing in the thread. About an 1 1/2" difference in length on the sprocket side of the housing so I would assume there would be the same difference in contact points on the axle. You could very well have a 82/83 200/200e axle. The housings and axles will interchange as far as mounting but you end of with slop when combining the 2. Good luck!
Mike

[Vealmonkey]

A couple pieces of advice. Learn to spell. Get a manual if you can figure out what trike you have. Take some time and do some maintenance to your trike. How hard is it to figure a cable operated brake system and what to possibly do to fix it???

[El Camexican]

A couple pieces of advice. Learn to spell. Get a manual if you can figure out what trike you have. Take some time and do some maintenance to your trike. How hard is it to figure a cable operated brake system and what to possibly do to fix it???

Add: If that was YOU in the photo pushing the trike out that YOUR Mom got stuck, shame on you! Make her push it out, its the only way she'll learn!;)