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Alright so lets do this, it branched off from HERE (http://3wheelerworldforums.com/showthread.php?t=42152) I think we should start with donations, we need to ask howdy if he could collect. Then we get paper, then ink etc... We could print up some basic newsletters, then branch on to a magazine eventualy. Ok, so who's with me?
1984kxtTECATE
10-21-2005, 12:44 AM
Alright so lets do this, it branched off from HERE (http://3wheelerworldforums.com/showthread.php?t=42152) I think we should start with donations, we need to ask howdy if he could collect. Then we get paper, then ink etc... We could print up some basic newsletters, then branch on to a magazine eventualy. Ok, so who's with me?
Seriously, I dont think it would happen unless you did a online version. I cant imagine shipping all that out to every person who subscribes, which would be a lot. I think it would be better to start a forum and have a bi monthly write up, machine tests, restorations as well as parts suppliers and what not. Gotta start small and work your way up.
atctim
10-21-2005, 10:49 AM
I think (and have thought about this idea for a couplke of years) this would be a really cool idea. Making it happen is a whole 'nother ball game. I would be happy to write 1 or 2 articles per month regarding ATC's. We could have secitons like:
Tech Zone
Readers Ride
Feature 1 make and model per month
A section for old timers to post cool OLD pictures
A new mod section featuring trikres like Virgils
restorations
classifieds
I'm sure many other ideas should start flowing from others. If we do a mailing though, who pays for postage, say we get 500 people who subscribe to a mailing, that's almost $200 in postage alone / month, not to mention the paper and ink costs from the printers. My aunt and uncle do however own a Printing Shop, and I am sure I could get some kind of cost break on doing this though. Like I said, I'm in and will help all I can. Editing and writing is up my alley. As far as publishing, we should have someone who is really good with Microsoft Publisher skills.
I guess we could take orders for future subscriptions. Something like subscribe for 1 year for about $25 - or something like that, it would take a while to get all the subscriptions in for start up- ie - start taking subscriptions Jan 1, 2006 and then have the first subscription go out on June 2006 or something like that. Get the money up front for some funding, then go from there.
Would we pay people a little for their time? Would all profits go to the board? We need to brainstorm things like this if we want to make it happen.
Someone else have any ideas on this?????
Im going to PM howdy, see what he thinks about this.
Nick_n_ii
10-21-2005, 12:48 PM
I'm game. This could ture out to be real big.
Nick_n_ii
10-21-2005, 12:54 PM
Hey has anyone thought of e-mailing a editer of one of todays ATV mags and ask for advise or even help with this indever?
okieRrider
10-21-2005, 01:25 PM
Have you guys thought about at first making it a quarterly magazine instead of an every month magazine. Then you could get a base on what subscription rates would be with shipping and so on and also how many folks would actually subscribe....Chris
atctim
10-21-2005, 01:37 PM
Good Idea! Noted.
brapp
10-21-2005, 01:49 PM
i think this is a great idea, and have soem type of comments ection and a test on some diffrent bikes, and specs on certin trikes and interesteing products and cool conversions. and cant forget thew idea abotu coverign races and some cool pics.
Howdy
10-21-2005, 05:18 PM
Im going to PM howdy, see what he thinks about this.
I had read this before I got the PM.
My reccomendation here is this:
If you want to do something like this start small. Maybe a bi monthly or quartly newletter 2-3 pages long to start. This would minimize the work and cost at first. Then if it really takes off then you can add pages and number of issues a year.
Can it be done? Yes! How good would it go over? Depends on how good it's done up.
A couple things to remember:
#1 It will take a lot of work from quite a few Dedicated people. These people will need to do a lot of testing, and research to keep the flow of good information comming.
#2 It will also take quite a bit of money to get it going. And then it will take a fair amount just to sustain it.
#3 You would really need to do a lot of talking to dealers, part suppliers, ect to get them to advertize. Once you get a advertizer to commit then you need to make sure people mention to the company where they found the ad. This would help be able to sustain them as a advertizer in the future.
Even if you get a few advertizers and 500 subscribers it would be VERY hard to break even, let alone turn a profit. So the reward for doing this would mainly be for the good of the machines and for self satisfaction ( about the same as building a Free web site like this one ).
Howdy
Ok, we need to find out how much we would sell it for. Also we should find out how much USPS would mail them. Howdy, would you be a part of this?
Howdy
10-21-2005, 10:36 PM
Ok, we need to find out how much we would sell it for. Also we should find out how much USPS would mail them. Howdy, would you be a part of this?
I am in support of it. How ever I currently have more things in the works than time allows. So if you asking if I can do part of the work? The answer is not at this time. With my busy daily schedule now I get a average of 4 - 4 1/2 hours sleep a day. Right now I don't even have time to get things listed on Ebay for the shop. And the shop is how I make $$ to help the site.
Howdy
mad_max
10-21-2005, 11:13 PM
Regarding a printed magazine...
I asked Dean Kirsten about reprinting old 3wheeler articles and publishing them... he said "I'll tell you, today's printing and shipping prices would scare you to death. The idea is great, but the cost would choke a horse".
See pg. 25 of the "Long live 3wheeling magazine" thread, posts #375 and #376
Howdy
10-21-2005, 11:35 PM
Regarding a printed magazine...
I asked Dean Kirsten about reprinting old 3wheeler articles and publishing them... he said "I'll tell you, today's printing and shipping prices would scare you to death. The idea is great, but the cost would choke a horse".
See pg. 25 of the "Long live 3wheeling magazine" thread, posts #375 and #376
http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/showpost.php?p=209325&postcount=375
http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/showpost.php?p=209888&postcount=376
;)
Howdy
Somekindofjerk
10-21-2005, 11:49 PM
Maybey we could have EMAIL sent magazines. that would be fairly easy and free we just need some writers that can type ans speell wich i cant. lol.
Howdy
10-21-2005, 11:55 PM
Maybey we could have EMAIL sent magazines. that would be fairly easy and free we just need some writers that can type ans speell wich i cant. lol.
You have proved your point!! lmao
Actually a good spell checker would fix the spelling part.
Howdy
Somekindofjerk
10-22-2005, 12:07 AM
Ohhhh thats what that does... HMMMM!
LOL, ok. I type pretty fast, and spell good. Maybe I could do that part.
Somekindofjerk
10-22-2005, 12:28 PM
what youd need to do is use microsoft publisher and do a monthly magazine and email it to everyone. maybey have everyone pm you their email addres... or state it bellow
mines swanj@alltel.net:TrikesOwn
nouseforaname90
10-22-2005, 12:50 PM
http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/showthread.php?t=42158
I had already started a post on that in Trikesylvannia a few days ago. Right after I posted it in that one thread. If you guys can organize this and pull it together, that would be awesome. But it would take alot of time, dedication, and money. None of which I have; except maybe a little dedication. All the profit, if any, would be going to the site too, so you have to know that your work will be free..
And whoever said that their aunt and uncle have a printing shop, that is awesome. Talk to them about this idea. See if they are in support of it. That would be a major obstacle in this that is out of the way if they agree. Again.. like I said. It would be very hard to start and you would have to start small and have a big audience in support of it. But go for it. Get this going if you can..
Ok, were gonna do the email thing first. To see how it goes. Anyone who wants to write up articles, tell me. Post your email address on here if you want to recieve them. I can make the E-MAG, just we need people to write articles.
atctim
10-24-2005, 08:38 AM
OK, Keeping track of everyones email address from this thread would just be nightmare. If you would like to recieve a newsletter and / or are in support of this idea, please email me your email address and your home address. I will create a database of those whop want to subscribe. Email to:
3wheelers @ venustel.com
(Please ignore the spaces in the above address, as I don't want it to be harvested by spammers.)
If you are interested in being a writer for the newsletter, or have ideas for the newsletter, please let me know so in the email. Also, we will need a name for our publication - mention this as well - and even do that in this thread. I'm gonna go ahead and get this ball rolling on this project, as I feel well qualified to do this, and feel I have the necessary resources to do alot.
I still have not heard back from my Aunt regarding prices on printing the newsletter, for a mailing publication, but hopefully today I'll get someting back from her. I personally would rather have a mailing subscription, as it is something you can hold on to, rather than just a file on your PC, but I guess in the right layout, you could print it out. We'll have to see how it goes and maybe the first couple will be via email.
I'll be checking the email frequently as to keep track of who is interested and who is not.
Thanks for your support,
ATCTim
slothminx
10-24-2005, 08:45 AM
I am more than willing to help out in writing an article in the e-zine, if you give me something to do then i will give it a whirl. A good thing to add into the e-zine would be a how to section, stuff like how to bleed brakes well etc. the main problem with doing it as a hard copy on paper is shipping. its gonna be a couple of dollars to get it to me lesss for us i know but still alot.
Will
I would also like it to be on paper, I think tim is right. The first couple issues might be email type. Then it will be a true magazine. Send all your subscription addresses to tim.
Billy Golightly
10-24-2005, 02:02 PM
You guys have me baffled...You'll write for a hard copy newsletter but not for the site? Weird.
atctim
10-24-2005, 09:37 PM
You guys have me baffled...You'll write for a hard copy newsletter but not for the site? Weird.
Billy,
I guess in my head this newsletter is kind of in conjunction with 3WW. I would gladly write for 3WW. Actually I am currently working on a restoration page to add to the site. Maybe we need to re-group our thoughts or something. Or maybe it would just kind of be neat to have something to hang in the garage, or take on a long road trip or set on the back of the toilet tank? I don't know. What do you think? I, in no way, want you guys to think that we are trying to step on your toes here, and I would hope that you wouldn't think that was. In my eyes, 3WW will always be the king of ATC Media, that's why I am in here everyday.
It might be kind of neat to have some kind of publication though. Haven't heard too many thoughts from the 3WW Team on these magazine threads though, so I thought I would take some initiative and do this.
The more we hear from everyone, the better it will be anyway. PM me with your thoughts please.
ATCTim
Billy Golightly
10-24-2005, 11:04 PM
Billy,
I guess in my head this newsletter is kind of in conjunction with 3WW. I would gladly write for 3WW. Actually I am currently working on a restoration page to add to the site. Maybe we need to re-group our thoughts or something. Or maybe it would just kind of be neat to have something to hang in the garage, or take on a long road trip or set on the back of the toilet tank? I don't know. What do you think? I, in no way, want you guys to think that we are trying to step on your toes here, and I would hope that you wouldn't think that was. In my eyes, 3WW will always be the king of ATC Media, that's why I am in here everyday.
It might be kind of neat to have some kind of publication though. Haven't heard too many thoughts from the 3WW Team on these magazine threads though, so I thought I would take some initiative and do this.
The more we hear from everyone, the better it will be anyway. PM me with your thoughts please.
ATCTim
Sorry, I guess I kind of over reacted. To me it was a little bit odd to go all these years and never hear anyone offer to write articles or anything on the site (With a few exceptions) and then all of a sudden theres a dozen different people jumping up and down saying they'll do some writing or whatever for a print, but never mentioned or thought of anything for the actual site before. Just seemed strange and admittingly irritated me a bit when it has been me and Howdy doing all the writing on the site for the past 4-5 years. Not including the restoration pages and Super Junky.
If you guys get something going I definetly wont have any problems with it, I think it'll be a good thing. I dont think I'll realisticly be able to contribute much of anything because I dont even really spend the right amount of time on the site itself that it requires anymore. If you have something in mind though...tell me and I'll see if its feasible for me to do.
Billy
keister
10-25-2005, 11:22 AM
It looks like there are lots of people eager to write, so stop talking about it and start working on your articles. Billy is right. The site should be the medium to get this started. A few months down the road if there are lots of contributors and things are going well, then consider doing a .pdf or .tif format for mailling. I have mad grammar skills, solid riding skills, average wrenching skills, and would be happy to edit articles.
slothminx
10-25-2005, 11:42 AM
Woah, hold on there we have started to write :D:D.
And Billy, if your looking for someone to write for the site, i would be willing to help out there too. Just bear in mind my grammar skills arent too hot but ill give it my best shot ;).
Will
nouseforaname90
10-25-2005, 03:16 PM
Wow. Nice to see that my idea may actually happen.. lol.
I would like to be a part of this, as well. Although I dislike writing in all ways possible. I like editing and proofreading though.
Maine_Triker
10-25-2005, 05:33 PM
Idea: There could be a section where people write in and ask questions to former 3-wheeler racers... That would be cool!
I would like to help with the mag but I just don't have the time or resourses to do so (or skills lmao)
Phil
slothminx
10-25-2005, 05:49 PM
DAMN YOU MAINETRIKER lol
thats what im writing for the magazine right now, well actually its done!
;)
trikerider2oo7
10-25-2005, 07:59 PM
i would be more than happy to write or do something for the magazine and/or the site. if you guys need any help...i will help as long as its not something crazy thatg i cant do lol
atctim
10-25-2005, 10:03 PM
OK - for the magazine, I need someone who is very good with a graphics program to contact me for a small bit of graphics work. Basically, need someone to do the header for the mag. "3 Wheelers Magazine, and the date and Issue Number.
Please email me
3wheelers@venustel.com
Thanks
Maine_Triker
10-26-2005, 07:58 PM
DAMN YOU MAINETRIKER lol
thats what im writing for the magazine right now, well actually its done!
;)
AWESOME! :beer I'm eager to receive the first issue.... can't wait.... :Bounce
Keep up the good work guys!!!
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