Dealing with thieves.

[_brad_]

Why do people have to be thieves? Is it they are just to lazy to get a job? Or are they too dumb to know right or wrong?

I was up at my cabin recently up in Northern MN and while I was coming back from the bar down the street and back to the cabin, I witnessed some punk POS breaking into my car. When I yelled at him he bolted off. Now I don't even feel comfortable leaving my trike out overnight.

Stupid people! :mad:

What do you all do to protect your trikes when they are placed outside overnight? Chain to a pole? I was thinking about finding one of those alarms that when you move or pick up an ATV it sounds... They have them installed on these youth ATV's outside at this ATV place by my home.. I picked one up one day to feel how heavy they were and it immediately sounded and the owner came out. lol

Thieves just suck. And its like, even if I were to catch the guy, there is only one sheriff in town! lol

[edog]

I put my 250r in the corner under the work bench.Then I put the car in the garage rite up against it and lock the garage.............I always have my 44 Special on hand just in case.

[_brad_]

Unfortunately I don't own any guns and I don't know what kind of trouble I would get into if I were to shoot someone or beat the living shyt out of someone in my state...

At home there is no problem; its mainly when I have my trike out at friends places, cabins, ect. I need something "on the go" to secure my trike..

[Russell 350X]

My dog and my shotgun..thats what protects my trikes.

[_brad_]

Brad, if you get one of those motion devices please do up pics and tell more about it.
I agree, theives are stupid for the most part.

john

Will do John; I'm gunna go down and ask that ATV shop owner where he got them from.

[LonesomeTriZ]

Buy a gun (legaly), get a carry permit, shoot the son of a *Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited*, and claim self defense.

[_brad_]

Buy a gun (legaly), get a carry permit, shoot the son of a *Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited*, and claim self defense.


LOL I guess if you kill him he has no defense! :D

I was loooking into these Tattle Tale alarms for pets:

http://www.amazon.com/Tattle-Tale-Vibration-Pet-Trainer/dp/B0007PARCE

I know what your thinking... No way... But I think it may work.. Hook it up underneath the seat before night time and see what happends. According to the reviews it's pretty LOAD and SENSITIVE! And CHEAP!

[LonesomeTriZ]

Yep, I am all for killing those piles of crap.

[_brad_]

Yep, I am all for killing those piles of crap.


I hear ya. I wish I could catch this dough bag in the act. :D

[Serious Tim]

I actuallly carry my Tri-Moto in the back of my van with me. Saves space in the garage, and the back of my van is empty 99% of the time, anyways.

I do keep the van locked when on the street, the one thing that I do think is a theft deterrent for the average joe thief is a license plate on the back. The fact that there is actually a record of the trike's VIN in the system I would think would make a would-be thief think twice.

I don't worry about parking it when I go to a store. With the van locked, even if somebody did try to get it out (30 seconds if you know how, 5 mins if you dont), a telltale RINGtingtingtingtingtingtingwaaaaAAAAAAHHH in a parking lot in the burbs is bound to draw WAY too much attention :lol:

[3 weelin geezer]

Well, you cant kill them unfortunately else the world would soon be free of them. Unfortuanately, my guess is that the courts see them as mentally incompetent or something. You can always get a replacement for your stuff they stole they say but you can't give back or replace his life. I would vote for a bear trap. Then you hang em up in a tree so high, they don't find him for DAYS! Can you detain him for police without getting in trouble for depriving someone of their freedom illegally? Seriously, why would anyone yell at the perp if they want to catch him? Sneak up on him next time if you want to get a chance to grab him THEN you yell when you are right behind him. Will be too busy changing drawers to be able to think how to excape. Problem is if he's got a gun and you don't find out until its too late. :( Or better yet, get a big dog. No body likes to be treated like some kind of bone. :)

[_brad_]

I actuallly carry my Tri-Moto in the back of my van with me. Saves space in the garage, and the back of my van is empty 99% of the time, anyways.

I do keep the van locked when on the street, the one thing that I do think is a theft deterrent for the average joe thief is a license plate on the back. The fact that there is actually a record of the trike's VIN in the system I would think would make a would-be thief think twice.

I don't worry about parking it when I go to a store. With the van locked, even if somebody did try to get it out (30 seconds if you know how, 5 mins if you dont), a telltale RINGtingtingtingtingtingtingwaaaaAAAAAAHHH in a parking lot in the burbs is bound to draw WAY too much attention :lol:


Thats a good point about the license plate; it makes complete sense! However, sometime thieves are too stupid to know much besides their own sex, which, even then is debatable. lol

[firehart]

At Albertsons aka SuperValu, we can't even stop or detain shoplifters if we catch them in the act. We will lose our jobs. If we think they are shoplifting all we can is follow them around and be super nice to them.

[ATC-Eric]

I put a lock through the vents on my rear rotor, then I chain a couple bikes together. This way if someone wants to steal one, they have to carry three of them at once. This is all in my locked garage. Call me paranoid, Ill let you know how I feel when my bikes are still in my garage in the morning.

Yes, they could chop or cut the chain, but theres not many theives that are going to sit there and work on the bike for very long, they want to get in and out.

Ive also been interested in those alarms, let me know how it goes.

[Dammit!]

Some of you guys are setting yourselves up for a fall. Having guns isn't going to keep your trikes from getting stolen. Most of the time, people steal things when nobody is home. A dog? Dog's are easier to deal with than you think.

My brother had a near mint 1982 250R stolen out of a locked, attached garage in broad daylight. His guns didn't do him any good because nobody was home. The thieves beat the crap out of the large german shepard with either a big stick or a baseball bat. The neighbors are so damn worthless they TOLD the thieves nobody was home. My family is one of only two white families in that entire neighborhood. Middle of the day three black kids are banging on the door. Neighbor tells them nobody is home. You'd think that scenario would seem odd to the neighbor but apparently not.

So all the typical precautions, in a locked garage, big loud dog, gun owner and none of them made a damn bit of difference. The thieves were never caught. The trike never recovered. And you just know the morons didn't know to mix the gas so it was probably fried and dumped somewhere in a day.

If you really want to protect your trikes, lock them up. Good. Even inside a locked garage, chain them to each other or something else. Put a lock on the sprocket too. You can't make them impossible to steal but you can make them an unattractive target. Guaranteed if that 250R were locked up, they would have just stolen the TV or the stereo instead of wasting precious minutes trying to get the R unlocked. Like it or not, your trikes are the easiest target in your house if they aren't locked up. It's merchandise on wheels people.

[jeffatc250r]

You can get a lo-jack system installed, they hide a chip in the frame and track it with a satelite, your better off that way, prob near a 100% recovery rate and you can catch them red-handed. I think its a little pricey, like 600 bucks.

[ATC-Eric]

You can get a lo-jack system installed, they hide a chip in the frame and track it with a satelite, your better off that way, prob near a 100% recovery rate and you can catch them red-handed. I think its a little pricey, like 600 bucks.



I do believe I would be down on that. Didnt know they offered lo-jack for bikes.

[slothminx]

Locked into the garage, behind a locked gate, with a lock through the brake disc at the front, with the ignition unplugged and no fuel.


They will struggle to get it out and away easily. Id at least hope the fuss would let the nieghbours know its going, but then again they would probably glad of no more two strokes in the morning :D

[filipinoredneck]

I would most definitely shoot him and then tell the cops it looked like a bear in the dark:lol:

[bigreddaddy]

Why do people have to be thieves? Is it they are just to lazy to get a job? Or are they too dumb to know right or wrong?

I was up at my cabin recently up in Northern MN and while I was coming back from the bar down the street and back to the cabin, I witnessed some punk POS breaking into my car. When I yelled at him he bolted off. Now I don't even feel comfortable leaving my trike out overnight.

Stupid people! :mad:

What do you all do to protect your trikes when they are placed outside overnight? Chain to a pole? I was thinking about finding one of those alarms that when you move or pick up an ATV it sounds... They have them installed on these youth ATV's outside at this ATV place by my home.. I picked one up one day to feel how heavy they were and it immediately sounded and the owner came out. lol

Thieves just suck. And its like, even if I were to catch the guy, there is only one sheriff in town! lol




Brad, you sound like a young guy and also a good guy. I think some of these replies to your post could get you into some serious trouble if you were to actually act on their advice.
First off, in most states including mine you cannot shoot someone who is breaking into your car unless you are in it at the time. Purchasing a weapon for this reason is a very bad idea, in MY opinion. The best thing to do is contact law enforcement, this is what they are there for.
Now for your ATC, well remember it can always be replaced. Any kind of deterrent is better than nothing. Chaining it, locking it up, using an an alarm are all great ideas especially in the situation you stated, which is at the camp overnight, etc.

Hope this helps some.

[_brad_]

Brad, you sound like a young guy and also a good guy. I think some of these replies to your post could get you into some serious trouble if you were to actually act on their advice.
First off, in most states including mine you cannot shoot someone who is breaking into your car unless you are in it at the time. Purchasing a weapon for this reason is a very bad idea, in MY opinion. The best thing to do is contact law enforcement, this is what they are there for.
Now for your ATC, well remember it can always be replaced. Any kind of deterrent is better than nothing. Chaining it, locking it up, using an an alarm are all great ideas especially in the situation you stated, which is at the camp overnight, etc.

Hope this helps some.


Yes, I agree with you. Some of these replies could get some one into much trouble. As you said a ATC can always be replaced. Not to say I'm not all for chaining the guy up and "roughing" him up a little while the police are in route... But to shoot and kill is going a little to far UNLESS I FEEL THREATENED. Then by all means shoot to kill.

I do appreciate everyones input on this matter. I think for starters I'm going to go buy some chains or cable locks.

What would everyone recommend? A think chain? A thick cable with a thick padlock?

[_brad_]

I do believe I would be down on that. Didnt know they offered lo-jack for bikes.

Hmmm I would be down for that too! I'm gunna have to look into it.

[_brad_]

You can get a lo-jack system installed, they hide a chip in the frame and track it with a satelite, your better off that way, prob near a 100% recovery rate and you can catch them red-handed. I think its a little pricey, like 600 bucks.


To LoJack:

"I am interested in a LoJack system for my ATV. However, I have no dealers around my area. Can you guys ship the system out and I can install it myself? How much does the cheapest system cost?"


LoJack:

Mr. Anderson,

Thank you for your interest in our product line. However, at this time LoJack can not equip ATV’s or off road vehicles.



Much appreciated,

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Kathleen H. DiBastiani

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LO~JACK Corporation

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[Howdy]

I found this via one of the advertizing links here on the forums. Yes some of these links / ads can help find things you need. Some times it helps to click a link or 2. ;)

http://www.oldbikebarn.com/part.php?id=12144&subcategory=Alarms


Howdy

[Tri-Z 250]

I hate to say this but Chrystal Meth has become such a huge problem in cabin/hunting, seasonal home areas. Poormans cocain, crank, what ever you want to call it is being made in the backwoods of America. Druggies without jobs steal...what ever isn't bolted, or locked down. I drive all over Cleveland and you can't believe how many people are pushing hotwater tanks, siding, what ever metal to the scrap yard in a stolen shopping cart ( cops just keep driving by). SO if your mad about a 1 cop town....Count your blessings you don't live anywhere near 55th. 500 cops and still the madness. Look to Krypto Locks for some peace of mind.

[LonesomeTriZ]

I like setting traps.

[70ATC90]

Your lucky you walked up on him while he was in the act. I think purchasing a gun is a horrible idea. And I know a lot of you in this thread who are saying "buy a gun" don't have the balls to squeeze the trigger on someone attempting to steal your ride. I mean think about it, would you actually end someone's life if you saw them trying to steal your trike? It would be a terrible thing to have to live with, I would think about it every time I ride the thing. 2 years ago I had an 86 liquid R stolen right out of my friends barn in broad daylight while we were 2 miles down the road, I have no idea who did it, I haven't replaced it, and to this day I still only have an ATC 90. But I do know, even if I was there at the time, and even if I had a clean shot, I would never have killed the guy.

[LonesomeTriZ]

Trust me; squeezing that trigger is not that hard. And yes, I would end a thief's life in less than a heart beat if I got a clean shot.

Now, let me reiterate. I was joking when I suggested buying a gun. Not every one is capable of owning one and I do not suggest that the general masses should do so. Dammit is absolutely correct. The chances of you being there and able to fire of the perfectly placed shot is slim to none. A fire arm is far more dangerous in the inexperienced hands. Then, the criminal will have the upper hand.

That being said, I would like to say again I’d kill the ****CLEAN IT UP!!!!- MODERATOR**** with out even a moments hesitation and I would sleep just fine knowing I did a good thing.

[Dammit!]

Also be aware of your state laws. I know here in AZ, if you shoot and kill someone that's just trying to steal your stuff and not putting you in physical danger, you're going to jail for a very long time. I think in Texas you can pretty much shoot at will if there's a thief on your property (don't quote me on that). Same goes for any kind of dangerous trap. As insane as it is, in most states, if you do something like that and the criminal is injured, it's YOU that is getting jail time for it. Personally, I like the way Texas handles it. When I found out I could go to jail for beating the hell out of an intruder in my own house in Arizona, I wanted to leave the damn state.

I've learned to be an "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" kind of guy over the years. The arrogance of thinking I would never be robbed because I'd stop the guy lead to me getting robbed a couple of times. I had a car stereo and some items stolen out of a car right under my freakin' nose without even noticing it was going on until someone came home and ran in the house and said "somebody is trying to steal the car!" I ran after the guy in a snow storm wearing nothing but jeans and a t-shirt but he got too far of a head start. I couldn't catch him. Turns out it was a good thing I didn't. I was unarmed and one of the items stolen out of the car was a PR24 police baton.

Just use some common sense. Be aware of your state laws and make your trikes or whatever difficult to steal. Odds are a thief will see the obstacles (chains, locks, alarms) and move on to an easier target.

And don't make mistake of thinking a dog is adequate protection by itself. They are not. I don't care how tough your dog is, one strike from a baseball bat to the head and your dog is done (and possibly dead). This is especially true if the thief already knows the dog is the only thing between him and a good score so don't do that to your dog.

[dizasterzrfun69]

Trust me; squeezing that trigger is not that hard. And yes, I would end a thief's life in less than a heart beat if I got a clean shot.

Now, let me reiterate. I was joking when I suggested buying a gun. Not every one is capable of owning one and I do not suggest that the general masses should do so. Dammit is absolutely correct. The chances of you being there and able to fire of the perfectly placed shot is slim to none. A fire arm is far more dangerous in the inexperienced hands. Then, the criminal will have the upper hand.

That being said, I would like to say again I’d kill the ************** with out even a moments hesitation and I would sleep just fine knowing I did a good thing.


AMEN!!! IF he's dead and floating doen the river than who is going to file charges? Who is going to come out and say "my husband went to steal this guys 3 wheeler and never came home"?? Probablly not too many people. IF he's such a worthless POS that he has to steal someone elses *Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited* then chances are no one knows he even exists and no one will know he's missing. If you dont think i have the ******CLEAN IT UP!!!!- MODERATOR****to pull the trigger than come try to steal my *Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited* and see what happens.

[70ATC90]

AMEN!!! IF he's dead and floating doen the river than who is going to file charges? Who is going to come out and say "my husband went to steal this guys 3 wheeler and never came home"?? Probablly not too many people. IF he's such a worthless POS that he has to steal someone elses *Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited* then chances are no one knows he even exists and no one will know he's missing. If you dont think i have the********** to pull the trigger than come try to steal my *Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited* and see what happens.


Idk man, you talk some big game on the internet, but that doesn't mean jack in real life. It doesn't matter what you say, if life actually brought you to that situation, I bet you'd think twice. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't hesitate to pull it on someone if they were raping my wife or kidnapping my children, but over a *Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited**E dited* trike??? Wake up man.

[honda 4h]

ge guys just go out and get 10 feet or so of 5/8 crane cable with proper lope bolts and weld the nuts and get a very good commercial lock that's what i have been using for years my big red has been attempted stolen 7 times the bolt cutters cant cut it and using a hack saw out of the question have two sets of bolt cutters left behind and a hack saw. i do know some thieves in the area when they steel a 4wheeler thay get 300 to 700 bucks for one. i don't know the going rate on a 3wheeler.just lock it up.or go the other route. but if i did that 25 to life for me but in Canada the rules are different.

[vegas250rr]

http://www.onguardlock.com/lockviewer.php?type=ulock&model=5006
heres what I use .... mines an older version but its the same size
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n194/youngberg1/Trikes/parts%20bike/th_DSC03642.jpg (http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n194/youngberg1/Trikes/parts%20bike/DSC03642.jpg)
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n194/youngberg1/Trikes/parts%20bike/th_DSC03641.jpg (http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n194/youngberg1/Trikes/parts%20bike/DSC03641.jpg)

[3 weelin geezer]

Your lucky you walked up on him while he was in the act. I think purchasing a gun is a horrible idea. I mean think about it, would you actually end someone's life if you saw them trying to steal your trike? It would be a terrible thing to have to live with, I would think about it every time I ride the thing.


Why is it horrible to BUY the gun? Nothing wrong with helping the economy.

If that person also wanted to take my life along with my trike, you bet I won't just let him if I can help it. Life is not always rosy and if thats how its gotta be, well, then thats how its gotta be. The way I see it is that it wasn't necessary but HE chose that path not me. He could have run away and left me alone. He got everything he deserves! Yeah, some might think thats cruel but some people don't value your life over an object like you value theirs. If its a question of who gets to ride home when the sun sets, him or me, I think I will go with me.

Now, if I can go another route, I would compliment him on 'his' trike and strike up a conversation. Then, when I am close enough, snatch him in an chicken wing to the ground while one of the friends goes and gets the cops. Better to let him sit in the defendant's chair than me.

[Honda Junkie]

My shop got broke into by some little punks. They actually cut a hole in my wall to get in and then out again. The only thing I find that will protect your trikes is 4 wheelers the reason is that I had about seven bikes in my shop at the time and one bike was my pristine 86 350x that they didnt even touch instead they went for the two ragged out 400exs and a z50 dirtbike. Punk Kids are DUMB! huh!!!