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Dirtcrasher
04-27-2008, 10:38 AM
Does anyone know if they are cast or forged?

I had a member offer me a new one for the 86/87 200X but I've only heard of them once and didn't know they made a 12:1 piston...

Thanks for any help!

2hundredx
04-27-2008, 11:27 AM
I put one in my '84 200x (stock size) about a month ago and I have had no problems with it. I'd say go ahead and get it. I think they are cast, but dont take me up for it. Hope I could help.

honda250sx
04-27-2008, 01:53 PM
Steve i would shy away from them. I know quality counts in your book. But I also know so does price. Dealers send alot of these kits out the door due to there price- CHEAP! Fact of the matter is a google search of these pistons should ruin your day haha. Can you go with a PRO-X? Pro-X makes excellent high silicone content cast aluminum alloy pistons. I would never recommend a wiseco though either. Quality wise, Wiseco are fine. User-wise, they are usually not. It takes someone familiar with them to set the motor up, with the appropraite larger clearances, and a user familiar with them to know how long to appropriately warm the engine up before doing any hard riding. Otherwise you get a nice hard seize. I only recommend them to experienced builders/tuners/riders. Of course all in my opinion. Different builders will say different things.

Dirtcrasher
04-27-2008, 02:21 PM
Good stuff to know Jeff.

I don't have any confidence in my local boring shop, I think they are a bunch of idiots..... And I also didn't think I'd hear good stuff about WSM.

I'll see what Pro-X offers.

Would you powder coat before boring or after. I'm thinking they'll chip it somehow.....

Dirtcrasher
04-27-2008, 03:37 PM
Doesn't look like they make a 12:1 piston :(

I'm stuck with WISECO I believe..... What do they call for Jeff, .002?? I may have to send the jug and piston to Ronnie.

honda250sx
04-27-2008, 05:06 PM
Well I currently have three Tri-Z cylinders in fresh powder. One is at Ronnie's place right now. The other will go down when that one comes back and I want to save the other for the future. I dont think they will chip it. Unless they intentionally hit it or improperly handle it. I would send it to Ronnie...His work looks mighty fine to me! He could also port the 4 stroker heads and do valve work and so on....

You coating yet!?

3Razors
04-27-2008, 05:09 PM
WSM piston are good quality. I have used them for awhile with zero problems. They are mostly well known in the PWC market as they have been around for decades.

honda250sx
04-27-2008, 05:11 PM
Email SBT (short block technologies) and see what they say about WSM. Or research them on any PWC forum and you will see what users are saying.

3Razors
04-27-2008, 05:14 PM
Already been there and done that. I also visit pwctoday.com all the time. The problems happen when people try to run them in applications with stroker cranks or heavily modified engines. For a stock replacement they work good and last along time.

honda250sx
04-27-2008, 05:16 PM
In steve's case this won't be a "stocker". For his replacement its no good....

3Razors
04-27-2008, 05:18 PM
[QUOTE=honda250sx;616688]In steve's case this won't be a "stocker". For his replacement its no good....[/QUOTE

I agree

Dirtcrasher
04-27-2008, 05:22 PM
Well I currently have three Tri-Z cylinders in fresh powder. One is at Ronnie's place right now. The other will go down when that one comes back and I want to save the other for the future. I dont think they will chip it. Unless they intentionally hit it or improperly handle it. I would send it to Ronnie...His work looks mighty fine to me! He could also port the 4 stroker heads and do valve work and so on....

You coating yet!?

I wish I was.... I have accomplished ALLOT lately but I have to get this done in short time, it may not happen.....

A regular oven isn't big enough for an axle, and thats my goal. I have the elements and 1 piece of duct, I need 1 more and a stat.

Honestly, between my friends broken frames, exhaust studs, bearings to install and about 4 lower ends to rebuild within a month - I am SWAMPED....

I'm so friggin tired today that I need a day off.....

Fortunately, the head is good to go as is. I just need a bore and piston and I may send it to Ronnie, but I need it back within 2 weeks or my a hole dealer will have to do it for me and I'll pray for the best......

I gotta talk to you about your anodizir sometime. BTW, your Z is looking absolutely incredible, very nicew work my friend :w00t:

honda250sx
04-27-2008, 05:26 PM
Note to yourself. Please make a list of everything needed for this oven! I wanna build me one! Ronnie maybe able to turn that around that fast. Not sure. Catch him on .ORG he's there alot more often.

Anodizer sure no prob. Got Sprocks Tri-Z intakes coming to my house to get anodized soooooon:) Thanks for the comps! Im dying to make that mofo a roller today!!!!

honda250sx
04-27-2008, 05:53 PM
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Honestly, between my friends broken frames, exhaust studs, bearings to install and about 4 lower ends to rebuild within a month - I am SWAMPED....

I'm so friggin tired today that I need a day off.....QUOTE]

Sooooooooo now's not the time to say....Steve I need this pinned?
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN3180.jpg

DeePa
04-27-2008, 06:00 PM
you need to find a new shop...paid 25 for mine...

www.mrcycles.com for yamaha parts, service honda for honda parts

honda250sx
04-27-2008, 06:09 PM
And you need to realize i work at a dealer....thats not my price, only list........ My cost 22.69..............Muahahahahahhaha

DeePa
04-27-2008, 06:12 PM
haha thats awesome...just trying to save you a buck

honda250sx
04-27-2008, 06:13 PM
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN3181.jpg

honda250sx
04-27-2008, 06:14 PM
No bullshit. I couldn't afford to build my Z the way i wanted if i didn't get that kind of break... But sometimes I can still find cheaper on the net... but i never have to worry about getting boned either.

Dirtcrasher
04-27-2008, 09:59 PM
Yes, I have time to pin your impeller......

honda250sx
04-27-2008, 10:05 PM
Shaaaaaaawing. Sweet PM me !

MTS
04-27-2008, 10:07 PM
Send your Jug up here, The shop i work for is very familiar with wiseco's and punching holes, can have it done and back Within 2 weeks no problem, Pm me if your intrested on the details. ;)