82 185s help..

[jayson88]

Hey guys,i picked up this 185s about a week ago the guy said it has been sitting for a while,so i went and had the carb rebuilt changed the plug and finally got it crunk,but it was smoking and the smoke smelt like gas and was flooding the plugs out,and it wasn't running right now it wont even attempt to start,heres a pic of it,i appreciate any help...

[Vealmonkey]

Okay, what"s "crunk"? I've been through several parts microfiche and service manuals and I've never seen reference to this "crunk"? Also what kind of help are you looking for? Help for the english language I hope? LOL So I guess you had it running since it was smoking? Or is this part of the "crunk"? I notice you didn't mention that you put fresh gas in the tank or even rinsed the tank out with fresh gas. I have no idea who rebuilt your carb or if they rebuilt it correctly. I have no idea if you even had your idle set close to where it needed to be or if you had your air/ fuel ratio set close where it needed to be. You could have bad gaskets on the intake or a cracked intake or bad timing or valves that need to be set or any one of a number of things. You need to provide some better info. Have you static timed the trike? Have you set your valve gap? Do you have a clean air filter or any obstructions in the airbox or the intake leading up to the carb? Did you have your tank rinsed out and fresh fuel? Did you install an inline fuel filter just in case of junk in the tank? Did you have your air fuel ration knob turn out about 2 1/2 turns. Did you have your idle knob turned out around 3 turns? Was the carb rebuilt by someone who has experience doing this and did they use the correct carb kit? We'll start with these questions.

[jayson88]

I meant running,Yes i cleaned the tank and put new gas in it,the carb was rebuilt by a guy that has been working on this stuff for 30+ years,he said that he set every thing back to the factory settings..As for the timeing and valves i have no clue i dont know how to work on that kind of stuff,the air filter looks good,i did put a fuel filter on the fuel line

[Vealmonkey]

Then not being mean, but maybe you should take the whole trike to the guy if it's not too inconvenient. Unless you want to get a shop manual on line from here and attempt to set the timing and valve gaps yourself. The smoking could be from old oil or old gas in the system. It's hard to say without seeing it in person. It's really up to you the route you want to go with this. If your not familiar with working on the trikes or not have a lot of mechanical experience, it will be a little tougher trying to get your trike up and running, though not impossible if you are patient and willing to learn and spend some time studying and following the shop manual.

[gsw902]

that is a nice looking trike, I hope you getting running.

[DanMan]

9Hey thats a really nice looking trike. I have an 1981 185s, it's not as nice looking as yours but hopefully it will be soon. I bought it as a basket case last year, put it all together, and got it running and driving. I had never worked on a three wheeler before, just my 1979 Suzuki DS 185( which is 2-stroke if you are not familiar with the old Suzuki's). I went into the project no knowing anything about trikes, or Honda's( besides my brother's 1986 Honda Accord). I spent countless hours out in my shop working on it, but I eventually figured things out. I managed not to spent a whole lot of money either, because I did all the work myself. So don't get to discouraged, and spend all of money bringing it into the shop( Your wife will probably kill you!, Or if you are single you might just starve to death.). Go out, buy a manual, and spend some time figuring things out. In the long run it will be worth your time. Good luck! Don't get too discouraged, if I can it, you can too.

[Sick200x]

Very nice looking trike. If you plan on keeping it I'd go ahead and get the service manual. It's not too hard to just follow the manual step by step and you'll learn alot down the road about those engines. I'd go through and freshen up the top end and invest in some valve seals at the minimum. Once you learn the workings of that engine, you'll have pretty good knowledge, not only on that, but also on the 200cc versions (200M, S, X) Good luck and keep at it, that's a nice trike with years and years of life left.

[Sick200x]

one more thought for you: Blueish smoke=oil Blackish=fuel

[MonroeMike]

I'd check the carb settings and try it again.

Idle mixture screw - 2 turns out.

Clip position - 2nd groove from top.

I sent you a manual.

[jayson88]

Thanks for all the replys guys,i do plan on keeping it so i guess i'm going to do what ever it takes it get it running,i think i have the idle mixture screw set right,but i'm not sure what the Clip position is?.i also have an 84 200m will that carb work on the 185s?..

[Vealmonkey]

Don't go switching carbs and stuff right now, when you're not sure what is wrong with what you have. You'll have all kinds of parts mixed up and you'll get frustrated fast. When you put your carb back on your trike and had to screw the top with the throttle cable on it back on, well unscrew that again and when you pull that out, at the very bottom of all that should be your carb needle. The needle will have 4 or 5 notches in it and in one of those notches should be an 3-clip. Let us know which notch it's in, if 5 notches it should be in the middle notch. if 4 notches it should start out in the second notch from the top. If you don't have a needle on there or you don't have the clip in it, then that could be a problem! LOL But it isn't major or the end of the world, it's just a temporary setback. There should have been a new needle and a new clip in your carb rebuild kit. But we are going to have to start with the basics. Something else to check is wether or not that your throttle was working correctly or did that need adjusted? You throttle slide on fits in one way so you will have movement with your throttle slide. If you have that in wrong then it's sort of like your carb is pinned wide open, which won't work well at all. Also, even though you may have had the slide in correctly, it may not have been adjusted to be all the way down as far as it should be as in the carb would be sligthtly open or more. There is a notch on the carb slide that should face the back of the trike and it means the carb will never be 100% shut off, this has to do with the idle. But once you have the carb cable assembly back on the carb, then you have to put your finger down the inlet side of the carb to see where the slide sits at. You may have to adjust the tension on the carb cable to let the slide seat down in the carb as far as it can. if you loosen up on the carb adjustment where the slide doesn't seat down anymore, then the slide should be set. If there is too much slop in the cable when you push the thumb throttle, then you will have to adjust that slop out of the cable. That should keep you busy for awhile. LOL

[jb2wheels]

A great trip down memory lane - I bought one just like it new in 1982 minus the racks in Yucca Valley or 29 Palms. That was a lot of paper route $$. Eventually ended up with full suspension and a nice obnoxious Bill's pipe. I wonder where it is today? Probably the front fender on my Civic :-(

You'll have a lot of fun on it once it's sorted out.

[trikes4life]

smoke color white-water in fuel, blue-oil, black-carb issues