"Thinking out loud" CR125 powered 200x

[STLTrike]

before all the experts get involved in your project just remember the CR125 ATC is a ride for riders that weigh upto 150lbs. It's not a bike made for the big guys but still can be ridden by them though but it will lack the power you want. with that said it's your project and a good one.
2nd Xpress I think you should calm down and mind your manners. A few of us do have many years on you when it comes to trikes. Heck some of us bought our bikes NEW AT THE DEALER and still have those bikes. but why listen or take our advice, 20 plus years on these things, but I can see how your few years of riding has made you an XPERT. the early X motors suck. There I said it. Not once have I've been riding with a 200 rider and problems happen. I gotta chuckle as I see guys kick and kick to get their bikes started. WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN?? Cuz I'm sick and tired of waiting for them on a ride. And whats up with those valves?? You younger guys really think you know all. I wish I did by the time I was 18 . With your little outburst and yes little is being kind it has really showed me how you treat others who don't agree with your XPERT opinion. I've said this before to you, if you wanna BTCH you have your own facebook page to vent on don't do it here. This was a good thread about a build that most, XCEPT you, wanna see. I really take offence to the retard comment. I volunteer with the mentally challenged and at least they would understand the viewpoints of others without acting like a little brat. I think you owe Robby an apology and the rest of members for your tiff. I will say your off my X-mas list and any help my way is mute. And trust me I'm one of those guys who tends to send out free parts when you need them the most.
BKM I can't wait till you start this build and if I remember there wasn't too much involved. not as easy as an autoX but still a great project. My father was big on conversions back in the day and left my brothers and I with some real gems. I'll be glad to give you my 2 cents worth when you need it

OK killing my last hour here at work.. Reading through this it looks like a classic example of why its not good take text typed on the Internet literally. A junk engine may mean slow to one person, broken down, or unreliable to another person. Depends on how one was raised using the word. However I'm not a mechanic and maybe in the motorcycle mechanic world "Junk" means somehting specific... I doubt it though.

Good luck on the build BMK!!!!

[bkm]

I think this has run its course for now. Last thing I want is for guys to get at each others throats over my thread. How about we come back to this when ever I decide if I want to go forth with this project. I feel I'm putting the cart before the horse on this one and I'm knee deep in my 350x project at the moment. Thanks to all for the help and if I decide to go forth I'll start a build thread.

Thanks again.

[Xpress]

I think you owe Robby an apology and the rest of members for your tiff.

I don't owe an apology to anybody, if anything, Robby owes an apology to me for going off on my own personal opinion, but I'm not holding it against him. Re-read what was written, you'll see he's going after me for something I have an opinion on.

I will say your off my X-mas list and any help my way is mute. And trust me I'm one of those guys who tends to send out free parts when you need them the most.t

That's great, I'd rather work to buy parts with my own hard earned money rather than get them for free. There is more satisfaction when going that route. I should know, every single trike or trike part I have bought has been through the money I have earned, not something that was given to me.

I really take offence to the retard comment.

Me too, I'm not the one who tried to mask it up by saying "slow learner", of which I am not.

No, I'm not this so called "XPERT" you are trying to insult me with, sure, there's plenty of things I don't know. But what I do possess is a lot of know-how on a lot of common various things. Trikes are one of those things, and no, I'm not shooting in the dark, I'm going back and researching things before I post, speaking from both personal experience and others experience.

If you guys think the 1st gen 200X engine is junk, then that's fine, I think it's a great little powerplant, and all the components that everybody has said go out or wear out, mine are still working perfectly fine. That's all I am saying.

[dcreel]

Our '83 200x was our most reliable trike out of the bunch.. It always started on at the most 2 kicks.. I would love to see a cr125 motor in a 200x frame though.. I think it would be a cool little runner..

[bcredneck]

the 200x motor was never a good race motor but its not junk remeber it did start as a 100cc street bike the kick start seems to be a pain and the head desine is total crap as soon as someone tightens the 4 bolts on the top to much its a reliable trail motor witch is what it was made for so if he wanted a race trike i can see why he said it was junk but if the motors geting swaped i would go with the blaster motor or bigger the cr 125 has troble making it up some hills as a bike add the weight of the trike and your not going up any big hills a air cool cr 250 would probley be the best you could fit in there i think with the atc 250R motor the counter balacer would not fit

[RubberSalt]

I'm only 22, all my toys older than me I am no expert, but my dad is(40+ years experience professionally with gasoline), I go to him when I need help with building something. But everything else, I come here, I read, I search, I ask questions. I've learned so much from these forums and a few other forums, more than I could ever need to know. I just want to say thanks to everyone and sharing their knowledge. and on that note..

I'm taking a guess that you already have the cr125 engine, otherwise I'd imagine you going for the cr250.

[carmen cafro]

Could we all just agree to stop the BS about 200x engine and let's get some pics posted of some of these alleged 125 conversions which were done back in the 80's. There must be some out there! I have a cherry 84 200x (with a blown top end) just sitting in my garage waiting for me to do something to it. Maybe it too needs a CR125 stuffed into it. I also agree that it's gotta be a Honda in a Honda.

[dcreel]

It's not a CR or a 200X but it's the best I can do..

[leviblue]

BKM I'll pm you the pics asap my other conversion is in my profile page ... I'm done with this site and the SHTY attitudes the young guys give. it's all yours boys

[Xpress]

Don't get all butt-hurt. This is a community. Just because someone has more know-how on something than you do doesn't give you the right to whine about it.

dcreel, that's pretty cool. Good thing we have you around, you seem to have all of the good old magazines

And doesn't Cagiva have a 125? Or is that one just so unfairly powered we're throwing it out?

[dksix]

Are you talking an old air cooled 125 or a modern water cooled 125? Do you have a CR125 bike for a donor or will you be buying all the parts? I have a 350X that came to me with a CR250 engine. It wasn't a great swap but did work. The pipe is the biggest problem I see in mine. They have hacked the pipe and re-welded it to get it to "fit". I planned on swapping the engine back into a CR chassis but ended up trading for a CR and now I'm considering doing the swap better. The other thing that I don't like it the back kicking started of the CR. It and 84 CR250 engine, I've wondered if there would be anyway of using 250R parts to correct the starter ???? As far as the transmission issues, would a flywheel weight relieve any of the stress that the tranny sees or make it worse?

[carmen cafro]

That Tecate 125 is off the charts cool! All water cooled and sano!