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    Quote Originally Posted by Tri-Z 250 View Post
    Well Dirtcrasher, according to our 2 EXPERTS...the COP is liable for false arrest, damage to your bike, and resitution for the disablment of your sholder and arm. AS well as the uses of a Deadly weapon to an innocent podestrian....just name me one case where 1 single cop has come out of pocket for his misjudgement and use of FORCE on an innocent citizen...ORC???County and state to prove me wrong. Liablity ZERO!
    I think I'll take the high road on this one. Some people just don't and won't.. get it..
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    Seriously? We are still have a "my d*ck's bigger than yours* argument about this? Who really knows! I were not there and have no idea if the cop was just mauled the week before by a pit bull and was uneasy about it... it happens and maybe it was a mistake. Every situation is different, and I'll tell you this, I did not go into the police force because of all of these reasons and arguments, and etc etc... HOWEVER, when it all comes down to it, they are human just like you and me. They make mistakes, and yes, I know because they are in a position of power that they need to be more careful.

    If I had a dog running up on me (for instance), and my defense was either stick my leg or a gun in its mouth, it would be the gun. Does a badge and a gun give someone the permission to do whatever they want at any time? No way, but I do believe that because of the training and responsibilities that a police office has to deal with every day, that they have been trained (at least I hope they have) to deal with a variety of situations in the best possible ways.

    Getting run over by a cop? seriously? If that happened to me, my arm hurt, bike damaged, etc etc, I'd have (at the very least) a TV lawyer all up in the police officer's face. If I didn't do anything wrong, then what do I have to loose, huh? Now again, I wasn't at or see your situation so I'm making assumptions here too.

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    Remember Rodney King?

    "Four LAPD officers were later tried in a state court for the beating; three were acquitted and the jury failed to reach a verdict for the fourth. The announcement of the acquittals sparked the 1992 Los Angeles riots. A later federal trial for civil rights violations ended with two of the officers found guilty and sent to prison and the other two officers acquitted."

    Would you consider being sent to prison "out of pocket", I would. Rodney King won $3.8 million dollars. The 2 officers found guilty of civil rights violations each did almost 3 years in federal prison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bkm View Post
    Lack of reaction on the officers part is his responsibility and he could be held liable if the dog was to attack someone and the officer just stood there and did nothing. I wasn't there so I'm not going to pass judgement. Its easy to sit back and play the shoulda, coulda, woulda game, but the fact remains unless it was you dealing with this personally hindsight is always 20/20.

    I wish I had the OP's ability to break down and analize a situation as I'm driving down the road at XXmph. That must be one hell of a skill you possess.

    As far as the fines go on the 10 time offending dog, no I never wrote them a summons before that. I never saw a need to bust someones balls. I try and give people the benefit of the doubt and if I can take care of a situation and not cite someone, I take that route.

    I told myself I would not respond to a thread like this on this board. They never turn out good no matter how much common sence you try and inject into the conversation, some people just won't get it.
    Somehow,,I had skipped Right over this thread! I just wanna say to you Brian. Thank you for your service. Being a GOOD cop,,is One HELL of a lot more than just a job!! There are just enough bad ones to make the great ones a real pleasure to deal with. You put your life on the line for us Every day and should be respected THAT WAY. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tri-Z 250 View Post
    Well Dirtcrasher, according to our 2 EXPERTS...the COP is liable for false arrest, damage to your bike, and resitution for the disablment of your sholder and arm. AS well as the uses of a Deadly weapon to an innocent podestrian....just name me one case where 1 single cop has come out of pocket for his misjudgement and use of FORCE on an innocent citizen...ORC???County and state to prove me wrong. Liablity ZERO!
    Lincoln County Missouri. Deputy stops a truck, gets out of his car and as he is approaching the truck it starts to roll back at him. He shoots through the back window and kills the rear passenger and the driver. He is cleared of all charges criminally because he said he thought the driver was trying to back over him and he feared for his life. Out of pocket civilly the family of the rear seat victim was awarded a undisclosed amount paid by the deputy.

    Need any more because I have them.

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    Why not get out of the way and or shoot the tire?? If police wanna kill scum, I'm all for it; But too often I think it's a trigger happy officer. I certainly mean no disrespect to you.......
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    Non taken at all.

    From what I have been told it was a short pursuit and the suspect was definitely no stranger to the police. I wasn't there so I won't speculate. As far as shooting a tire, that is in the movies. The Supreme Court has ruled that if a suspect tries to run over an officer with their vehicle, deadly force is justified. As far as the above case, only two people know what really happened and one of them is dead.

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