Tulsamike3434's 1983 ATC 110 Project from start to end!

[tulsamike3434]

Are you trying to do an actual restoration or just trying to make this a nice rider? The reason why I ask is, I'm not sure if you know what all is involved in an actual restoration. Using all honda hardware. Re-cad plating nuts and bolts and washers and all the parts that were originally cad plated. Nos honda fenders. Nos honda tires. The proper color of paint, not just from a can (well some places will mix paint colors in custom filled cans), but actual paint applied by spray guns? I hope you know that the people who do serious restorations search all over the world for replacement parts. Restoration is a serious word not to be taken lightly. Restoration even goes as far as to take a stock carb back to it's factory original finish, not just a little carb dip, can of cleaner and add a carb rebuild kit. Do you have a factory assembly manual for this trike? The assembly manual tells the mechanics at the dealership how to properly assemble the trikes when they come out of the crates. It shows detail like how the electical wiring harness runs down along the frame of the trike and the routing of all the cables and wires necessary to run the trike. It's a big deal not to be taken lightly when you use the word restoration. A true restoration will take a couple thousand dollars. The level of detail on a restored trike is mind blowing. I've seen a couple restorations on here where the trike ended up nicer than when they were new. Anything other than this level of time and effort, should be called a refresh, not a restoration. All the work that went into my Tiger 250, if was a really intese refreshment of a trike that needed alot of work. Not a restoration by far. Great examples of restoration work can be found by looking for machines done by Vintage Restorations or by OC250rs' machines, which some of his parts have been restored by Vintage Restorations. There have been a couple other machines done to the level of an actual restoration, one being a 73 atc70 done by a board member that I can't remember his name though, sorry. I remember a few US90s done by another person, that were simply breathtaking. Those are true restorations and I know I would never personally even use the word restoration for any machine that I have because it's really a slap in the face to someone that either does true restorations or has had their machine professionall restored. Either way, all the best with your project. And I ask you to please show courtesy to those who do actual restorations or have had restoration work done. Sorry, but this is really a big pet peeve of mine.

I agree 100 percent and If a mod can change the topic to "rebuild" I would feel much better about this. I know some of the members have put many hours into there trikes I plane on this taking at least a year! And I am sorry if I offended anyone I ment no offense and thank you for pointing that out! But I would like to make it run and look as new as I can I have the money and the time with this forum I am sure I will get er done!

[tulsamike3434]

110, it just has 125 rear plastics.

Yes I knew as soon as I picked it up it was a 110. The plastics are easy to find but the rubber back flaps are hard to find!

[Jon Boy]

you can change the title by advance editing your first post. retitle it how you want, then click save.

EDIT: doh, i see you got it now.

[tulsamike3434]

Thanks Jon Boy!

[tulsamike3434]

Are you trying to do an actual restoration or just trying to make this a nice rider? The reason why I ask is, I'm not sure if you know what all is involved in an actual restoration. Using all honda hardware. Re-cad plating nuts and bolts and washers and all the parts that were originally cad plated. Nos honda fenders. Nos honda tires. The proper color of paint, not just from a can (well some places will mix paint colors in custom filled cans), but actual paint applied by spray guns? I hope you know that the people who do serious restorations search all over the world for replacement parts. Restoration is a serious word not to be taken lightly. Restoration even goes as far as to take a stock carb back to it's factory original finish, not just a little carb dip, can of cleaner and add a carb rebuild kit. Do you have a factory assembly manual for this trike? The assembly manual tells the mechanics at the dealership how to properly assemble the trikes when they come out of the crates. It shows detail like how the electical wiring harness runs down along the frame of the trike and the routing of all the cables and wires necessary to run the trike. It's a big deal not to be taken lightly when you use the word restoration. A true restoration will take a couple thousand dollars. The level of detail on a restored trike is mind blowing. I've seen a couple restorations on here where the trike ended up nicer than when they were new. Anything other than this level of time and effort, should be called a refresh, not a restoration. All the work that went into my Tiger 250, if was a really intese refreshment of a trike that needed alot of work. Not a restoration by far. Great examples of restoration work can be found by looking for machines done by Vintage Restorations or by OC250rs' machines, which some of his parts have been restored by Vintage Restorations. There have been a couple other machines done to the level of an actual restoration, one being a 73 atc70 done by a board member that I can't remember his name though, sorry. I remember a few US90s done by another person, that were simply breathtaking. Those are true restorations and I know I would never personally even use the word restoration for any machine that I have because it's really a slap in the face to someone that either does true restorations or has had their machine professionall restored. Either way, all the best with your project. And I ask you to please show courtesy to those who do actual restorations or have had restoration work done. Sorry, but this is really a big pet peeve of mine.

I can not find where I said restoration?

[wisconsinite]

Read yout first post, you mentioned "first full restore". Whatever you call it, good luck with your project

[tulsamike3434]

Ok got it all good now even added a reason for the edit lol!

[tulsamike3434]

I just would like to make sure I do this one right! I would like to know the best way to go about starting out. Cleaning? carb? wireing? what is the best starting point? I have fixed and or replaced alot of parts but a total rebuild... I know this might sound ignorant to most of you but this is why we are all here there are members on here that can do a 110 rebuild with there eyes closed. I love 3 wheelers I have rode them all my life and I will ride them till I die.

So with that being said where is the best place to start?

[Jon Boy]

personally i'd start with a bare basic teardown, inspecting things as you go. remove the plastics (basicly done) pull the air box, exhaust, motor, wheels/tires, bars, controls, all frame plates and covers and anything else you want to go further with. no need to tear into the motor, elec harness or totally taking things apart, unless you know it's going to need it. inspect the bearings and frame as best as possible, even check up in the frame under the rear skid. once you get that far, you'll probibly see where to go from there.

[zzmegad]

most important i think clean and organize your work area, and then yeah start removing pieces and cleaning them, are you planning on doing the engine? maybe just set the engine aside for now and start on the chassis and get all your systems cleaned lubed and working. there is no proper order,, as you take things apart and clean them you will find stuff to replace/rebuild. you'll get it, I'd get everything looking decent and working properly that way you can learn more about it. Then maybe go back and disassemble again for finishing of parts. just some ideas, I'll tell ya it takes ALOT of time and patience, 2 things I don't have a lot of, lol

[Vealmonkey]

I saw you were looking for a step by step restore post in your other thread. I was just asking the question for clarification purposes. As far as where to start, you have to think it all through. You have to have a plan. You can take pictures of what you started with. Make a list of the parts you want to replace, parts you can repair as well as what you can repaint, rechrome or replate. Your main starting point is from the frame out. The frame is black, but by hondas paint codes, it's a certain color black, you need to find this out first. You need to figure what is painted black. Then you need to strip those parts down, repair what needs to be repaired and then to repaint those parts the proper color. Next would be the rear bearing carrier and the front forks. Then progress out from there. Get yourself a dry erase bulletin board and a cork bulletin board and plan it out. Have before and after pics on your cork bulletin board. You can mark off or easily erase things you do to the trike and changes to your plan that you may need to adjust as the build goes along. You may have to buy a junker or 2 to get all the honda hardware you need unless you go buy all new or as much new as you can. Your big ticket items will be original tires and nos plastic, so budget for those accordingly. Once again, best of luck with your quest.

[tulsamike3434]

I saw you were looking for a step by step restore post in your other thread. I was just asking the question for clarification purposes. As far as where to start, you have to think it all through. You have to have a plan. You can take pictures of what you started with. Make a list of the parts you want to replace, parts you can repair as well as what you can repaint, rechrome or replate. Your main starting point is from the frame out. The frame is black, but by hondas paint codes, it's a certain color black, you need to find this out first. You need to figure what is painted black. Then you need to strip those parts down, repair what needs to be repaired and then to repaint those parts the proper color. Next would be the rear bearing carrier and the front forks. Then progress out from there. Get yourself a dry erase bulletin board and a cork bulletin board and plan it out. Have before and after pics on your cork bulletin board. You can mark off or easily erase things you do to the trike and changes to your plan that you may need to adjust as the build goes along. You may have to buy a junker or 2 to get all the honda hardware you need unless you go buy all new or as much new as you can. Your big ticket items will be original tires and nos plastic, so budget for those accordingly. Once again, best of luck with your quest.

I have 4 junkers and plenty of part's I was just wondering all that is wrong with it right now is a weak spark should I fix that first before the rebuild? I also have a Note book and my wife is going to print out the PDF manual for me so I can put it in a 3 ring binder monday. And thank you so much for your input!

[andersonee4]

I know its been said like three times. however....... Get more bags and 5 more sharpies. You may think you are labeling enough, but if you are like me... you aren't. I seriously did not think that through. Got a pile of bolts now.. pita. And regarding the fix on the spark. fix everything you can on the bench. it will save your back and save lots of time.

[tulsamike3434]

I know its been said like three times. however....... Get more bags and 5 more sharpies. You may think you are labeling enough, but if you are like me... you aren't. I seriously did not think that through. Got a pile of bolts now.. pita. And regarding the fix on the spark. fix everything you can on the bench. it will save your back and save lots of time.

Ok thank's andersonee4!

[MonroeMike]

If someone can find a 1983 Honda 110 PDF shop manual that would be great!

I have a manual, link sent.

The service data is here.

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...)-Service-Data