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    250es no fire

    I have a 85 250es that's not firing.... Any ideas

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    did you ever have it running ? maybe a corroded connector ?
    our original 85 we bought new, 2 - 86 police specials
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    Gone but lives on in my aching body the mighty 350x collection . A Beat 85 es im gonna rebuild

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    Never had it runnin, all connections good

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    Check the fuse.
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    Fuse is good, getting ground, stator seems to work fine, will turn over but no fire. Tried a few diffrent coils and nothing

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    Same as your other..'no fire' thread partner!!

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    Jfm0 is offline New to the board Arm chair racerNew to the board
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    Look at the on/off switch on the handlebar. Our 250es will turn over with that switch off, but we won't get any spark. I drove myself crazy trying to figure it out. Fortunately my brother came over and spotted it right away. He got a good laugh out of it...

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    If you are using the starter, try to kick it instead. Saw a few posts here lately with no spark or weak spark while using the electric start. Might be a weak/bad CDI box.

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    How do I test a cdi box?

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    According to this post, it is best to test everything else, unless you have a spare CDI laying around or that you can barrow from a friend. Stator and pickup coil should be within a range in Ohms when tested with a multimeter, details are given what the reading should be within the service manual.

    http://forums.atvconnection.com/yama...-cdi-unit.html

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    barnett468 is offline FACT ! I have no edit button Arm chair racerThe day begins with 3WW
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    Hello


    Never had it runnin,

    xxxxx

    all connections good


    How do you know that, it doesn’t have spark?

    Did you test for continuity on both sides of the connections?

    Xxxxx

    Fuse is good,


    Same as above.

    xxxxx

    getting ground,


    Same as above

    xxxxx

    stator seems to work fine


    Just EXACTLY how did you possibly determine this?

    xxxxx

    will turn over but no fire.


    I’m guessing you mean there is no spark when plug is laid on the cylinder head and it is kicked over, is this correct?

    xxxxx

    Tried a few diffrent coils and nothing


    Did you OHM test the original coil?

    Were these coils designed to work with this type of system.

    Are they known to be good or are you just guessing?

    Xxxxx

    How do I test a cdi box?


    Unless you OHM tested the original coil and stator there is no point in testing the CDI.

    There may be a test procedure in the manual but it doesn’t help so in other words the way to test it is to install one from a known running bike or buy a new one if possible.

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