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Thread: Bring BACK atc production in 2013 ??!!??!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue27 View Post
    It was 10yrs, there is to much of an insurance issue now. I believe when the kid lead free laws went into effect the ban of three wheelers was also added, atleast any imports since the chinese were sending pitbikes converted to trikes with no rear fenders. Also uped the safety of youth ATVS. There are tons of threads on this.

    http://azstarnet.com/news/national/g...db1307507.html
    Super interesting that they can write a bill about something EVERYone wants
    like clean drinking water and then, on the last page,
    slip in a line that bans yo yo's or something equally inane.
    All perfectly legal, and whomever votes on this stuff, regularly admit they ddn't have time to read it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TecateDan View Post
    Just spend the 2-4 grand and build what ever modern trike u want. I wanted a 500 tecate so I built one. Seen guys cut up banshee's (Trish) heard of some 300 ex conversions and got a buddy who is going to build a 400ex trike after he wraps up his 500 missle kit. Good welder and some initive and u can have anything u want. Me I'm looking for a 700 maico motor next....

    Here's my 500 tecate they should have made
    Very nice work! Looks nice!
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    AVATAR IS MY OLD 350X

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    I always get the "aren't they illegal?" thing from people all the time. In fact just Friday I got that from someone. The ban was effect for 10 years and the makers had to consent, though the were not required from what I've read. It was a mutual agreement to stop production. Anyways there is still a lot of ignorance out there. A lot of my friends say they hate them, that they have folded them in half etc. I think it's because they don't know how to get their butt off the seat and learn how to ride them....you don't ride them like a normal ATV. When I tell people I want to restore classic three wheelers they are always responding with why would you want a three wheeler? Get a four wheeler. Because 4 wheels is like riding on training wheels!!!


    Personally I would love to see a modernized 200X. I'd probably die.

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    Here is Canada the ban on sales and importing was 15 years..

    Licensing and insurance are now no problem, though you do have to search a bit to find an insurance company willing..
    Current toys..
    1986 Honda 350X..trail bomb!
    1985 Honda 250SX..my main mudder
    1985 Honda 250ES..Back in Black Trike
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    make your own, or if you need help. email HRE.

    www.hreatv.com

    He can make anything you want at a price $

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    IDK I guess its just me then... I would love to buy a brand new 250 big red, or some sort of half sport/half utility... I was reading a guy had a brand new still in the crate 250r ATC on ebay that bided up to 44,000$ but never met the reserve. That's why I feel if "big 4" were in there producing them again they would be competitively priced. Im sure I could build one, if say I bought a 400ex and spent another couple grand on parts/labor and 1-200 man hours but the overall value to me or economically just wouldn't be there. Same with if I hired someone to build me one for 10 grand(im guessing the estimate)

    -and yeah the history is what makes it wicked cool but at the same time any parts are fairly limited and are normally beat up parts anyways. I enjoy wrenching a bit but not in comparison to riding them.
    -NIIICE work on that tecate 500. However me personally I would never want something more than a 400ex category atc unless I lived by the dunes but that thing is bad and anyone would be a proud owner of that!
    -I believe there are something in the range of 5x's more lawsuits on side by sides(utv) than there ever were on atc's and they are still pumping them out.
    -where i live in central NY(where winters and summers are both intense) I would love to find a decent atc at a decent price but it just don't happen. They are almost ALL either 1 of 3 things
    1.) Beat to all H3LL
    2.) Being disassembled and sold as individual parts because they are worth more that way
    3.) Way overpriced, people are asking 2-3k and up for mildly abused atc's
    -im always hoping for a barn find, figure that would be my best luck. I even thought about starting to focus flipping houses on places that have barns just in case theres an atc in there.

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    The new in crate 250r during another round on ebay did sell for $30,000.


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    IDK I guess its just me then... I would love to buy a brand new 250 big red, or some sort of half sport/half utility... I was reading a guy had a brand new still in the crate 250r ATC on ebay that bided up to 44,000$ but never met the reserve. That's why I feel if "big 4" were in there producing them again they would be competitively priced. Im sure I could build one, if say I bought a 400ex and spent another couple grand on parts/labor and 1-200 man hours but the overall value to me or economically just wouldn't be there. Same with if I hired someone to build me one for 10 grand(im guessing the estimate)

    -and yeah the history is what makes it wicked cool but at the same time any parts are fairly limited and are normally beat up parts anyways. I enjoy wrenching a bit but not in comparison to riding them.
    -NIIICE work on that tecate 500. However me personally I would never want something more than a 400ex category atc unless I lived by the dunes but that thing is bad and anyone would be a proud owner of that!
    -I believe there are something in the range of 5x's more lawsuits on side by sides(utv) than there ever were on atc's and they are still pumping them out.
    -where i live in central NY(where winters and summers are both intense) I would love to find a decent atc at a decent price but it just don't happen. They are almost ALL either 1 of 3 things
    1.) Beat to all H3LL
    2.) Being disassembled and sold as individual parts because they are worth more that way
    3.) Way overpriced, people are asking 2-3k and up for mildly abused atc's
    -im always hoping for a barn find, figure that would be my best luck. I even thought about starting to focus flipping houses on places that have barns just in case theres an atc in there.

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    A cherry 2nd generation 250r recently went for $9100 on ebay. I couldn't believe it, it went a lot higher than I thought. The final bid just depends on which people are looking at the time. Some nice machines go for less than you think and some go for more. At most I would think a nice 2nd generation R would go for 4 to 5 thousand.

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    I would love to have 3 wheelers made again, but i would settle for an unlimited new parts supply from the manufacturers. The number of 3 wheelers are getting lesser and lesser everyday as they are all being parted out

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    I have talked with a HONDA rep over the phone about 3 years ago, I asked if Honda would ever make 3 wheelers again and they said " That's a possibility but not in the immediate future". The ONLY way to buy a new HONDA ATC today is to have Mike Pilgram from Vintagemotorsports to build you one. He is the man when it come to restorations, he has built ATC's for HONDA Collection Hall in Japan http://vintagemotorsports.net/restorations.htm Speaking of,, wonder what Mike is building now??

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    I would be happy with just having them all reproduce parts.
    1985 Honda 250r

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    I totally agree and we are fortunate we have members making them for us. Wish we could convince them to bring back the OHTSU tires for the 350X/200X/250R. I would be happy if we could convince a tire company like Cheng Shin to repro the P/V 101 and 701 tires.
    Quote Originally Posted by yamaha225dr View Post
    I would be happy with just having them all reproduce parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honda200x1987 View Post
    I totally agree and we are fortunate we have members making them for us. Wish we could convince them to bring back the OHTSU tires for the 350X/200X/250R. I would be happy if we could convince a tire company like Cheng Shin to repro the P/V 101 and 701 tires.
    Agreed. I love the oem front tire and refuse to spend $400 + for a new one to ride on.

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    +1 for settling with them reproduction of their old products..

    -"its a possibility but not in the immediate future" -very exciting!

    for now I will just keep hoping and doing my part by fixing/riding/restoring and talking about them

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue27 View Post
    It was 10yrs, there is to much of an insurance issue now. I believe when the kid lead free laws went into effect the ban of three wheelers was also added, atleast any imports since the chinese were sending pitbikes converted to trikes with no rear fenders. Also uped the safety of youth ATVS. There are tons of threads on this.

    http://azstarnet.com/news/national/g...db1307507.html
    Thats 100% the way remember things as well.
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