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Thread: Hi comp piston, Machine isn't that fast..

  1. #16
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    How's your clutch? If the timing is right, my guess would be the clutch.

    Does it sound like it keeps revving but is just not going any faster? If so, its the clutch.

    Make sure to buy an oem head gasket... Aftermarket is junk for the 200x's.
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    Agreed on the aftermarket 200x headgaskets, COMPLETE JUNK, mine blew out. Put a OEM Honda in mine, and havent had an issue.

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    Its hard to explain haha.. Its just not quick, and it stalls a lot. I couldn't climb a sand hill 15ft up in 1st gear. I used this thing before for hill climbs worse then what i just tried with it now. Basically the only way i can get it up to 50 is on tar, and if i'm shifting correctly.. as in wide open throttle, shift, wide open throttle, shift etc etc. (if i have throttle half way, shift, it takes a bit to get up in speed.) I also found that when i'm on tar going 50 and hit the shoulder where its dirt I slow down to about 35 (speeds are guesses), so i have to downshift to 4th so i'm in the higher RPMS to keep it moving.

    Basically last time it did this It was the bad gas.

    Also Jason, this is a 185 bottom end with a 200m top end.



    Just a little update as well... I took the trike on some trails and on the way home I hit a 2 foot drop off, bottomed out the trike and smashed my tail light holder haha.. anyways I lost the tail light yet still had my headlight.. i rode home with the headlight on.. it is a 55w up front.. shouldn't it have blown this bulb? Last time I had just a headlight it blew the stock bulb.. so i'm wondering if my spark is very weak? I'm running a D8EA for the plug and it is sparking great but i just thought this could be a possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CodyRosa View Post
    I took the trike on some trails and on the way home I hit a 2 foot drop off, bottomed out the trike and smashed my tail light holder haha.. anyways I lost the tail light yet still had my headlight.. i rode home with the headlight on.. it is a 55w up front.. shouldn't it have blown this bulb? Last time I had just a headlight it blew the stock bulb.. so i'm wondering if my spark is very weak?
    Why do you think your lite not going out measns you have weak spark?

    its been suggested at least 3 times that you do a compression test but you have not done one yet. thee is no point making post after post regarding this if you don't supply any info.

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    Barnett I can't do a compression test. Absolutely wont happen. My threads are stripped a little and for whatever reason I can get a plug in just fine but I can't get a tester in there.

    The light* was just a suggestion. If theres no taillight the headlight should blow. Obviously my voltage is weaker then it used to be.. because i've blown one before on this same machine. Why all of a sudden is it not blowing?

    once again.. just a suggestion
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    Quote Originally Posted by CodyRosa View Post
    Barnett I can't do a compression test. Absolutely wont happen. My threads are stripped a little and for whatever reason I can get a plug in just fine but I can't get a tester in there.

    The light* was just a suggestion. If theres no taillight the headlight should blow. Obviously my voltage is weaker then it used to be.. because i've blown one before on this same machine. Why all of a sudden is it not blowing?

    once again.. just a suggestion

    I have a refurbished 200x head with brand new valve seals just waiting for someone to buy it and the best part is the spark plug threads are perfect. PM me if you are interested.
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    sending pm haha
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    Cody, blowing one light will not cause the remaining light to blow as well. The voltage regulator is what keeps the voltage in the lighting circuit in check so the bulbs don't blow.

    And consequently, the ignition and lighting circuits are 2 separate systems. The stator has 2 sets of windings in it, one set to power the ignition system, and another separate set of windings that powers the lighting system. You can lose one and the other will still work. So having said that, a malfunction in one circuit will not adversely effect the other circuit. The obvious exception is if the entire stator fails all together.

    But this is a topic for a whole other thread...
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    Ride red, i'm fairly certain 200x's don't have voltage regulators. At least mine doesn't. Thats why I blew my first set of bulbs, one blew which caused the other to blow.

    But oh well it was just a suggestion. Once I buy yaegerbs 200x head i'll do a compression test.. haven't been able to do one of those ever on this machine lol. Stripped the threads 7+ months ago.
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    1984 Auto X - Sold
    1985 200M - Sold
    1985 YTM 125 - Sold
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    yep,, 83-85 200x's do not have voltage regulators.

    Regardless I wouldn't worry about why your bulb isn't blowing, it could be possible your bulb is rated for a higher wattage then oem.

    If you say your threads are basically stripped, why would you not think this could be a cause of poor performance?

    They're pretty easy to drill out and repair. My beater 125 is good as new after fixing the PO's mistake.
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    1985 Honda 350x x2
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    Oh I don't think the threads have anything at all do to with performance. I was just telling barnett that I can't get a compression tester in there. I would just fix them BUT I think every hole is stripped on the head lol. Both exhaust are stripping, the one for the CDI is stripping. I guess these things strip out quite easy =/
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    1985 200M - Sold
    1985 YTM 125 - Sold
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    OK fair enough. Thanks for correcting me on the voltage regulator guys.
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