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Thread: Oil for '84 Honda 200x??

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    Oil for '84 Honda 200x??

    What kind of oil should I use in my 200x? I need to know what weight, and if there is a specific brand. Detergent or non-detergent? I live in I live near Fort Wayne, Indiana so the weather get to freezing in the winter and sometimes reaches a high of 90-100 Degrees in the summer. Thanks in advance for the help!!

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    I use Amsoil 10w40 full synthetic, make sure there are no friction modifiers for the wet clutch. I live in Wisconsin and I use It all year round, good stuff

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    I use yamalube 10w40.. hasn't let me down yet.
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    barnett468 is offline FACT ! I have no edit button Arm chair racerThe day begins with 3WW
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    you need thinner oil for summer and thicker oil for winter

    you need oil designed for wet clutch engines.

    20/50 summer

    15/30 winter

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    edit thick oil for summer, thin for winter.

    i have no edit button, lol.

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    I use regular 10W-40. That's what the manual says to use.

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    Honda GN4 10w40 is the OEM recommended oil. This variable viscosity oil is fine for all seasons..no need to change between winter and summer.

    If there isn't a Honda dealer around the go to your local auto parts dealer. Anything 10w40 that is listed for ATV or Moyorcycle use will have the proper protection for you wet clutch.
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    I've always thought to stay away from synthetic oils in wet clutches... am I wrong on that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommerp View Post
    I've always thought to stay away from synthetic oils in wet clutches... am I wrong on that?
    I use the Honda full synthetic in my 350x..properly formulated Synthetic ATV oils exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommerp View Post
    I've always thought to stay away from synthetic oils in wet clutches... am I wrong on that?
    Synthetic oils are just fine, what you want to stay away from are oils labeled "Energy Conserving" -- they have additives that can cause problems with a wet clutch.

    One of the most popular oils used in motorcycles (also wet clutch, except most BMW, and Moto Guzzi) is Shell Rotella T-6. Google it. It's a heavy duty, full synthetic, oil marketed for diesel engine use. For our purposes, its most important characteristic is that it has a high zinc content -- and zinc is a great lubricant for the relatively high-friction design of our valve-trains.

    Do your own research and come to your own conclusion... but I don't think you'll find a better wet clutch oil at any price. And many of the high price "motorcycle" oils do not look so great in a comparison to Rotella.

    For more than you'd ever want to know about oil, check out http://www.bobistheoilguy.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvpierce View Post
    Synthetic oils are just fine, what you want to stay away from are oils labeled "Energy Conserving" -- they have additives that can cause problems with a wet clutch.

    One of the most popular oils used in motorcycles (also wet clutch, except most BMW, and Moto Guzzi) is Shell Rotella T-6. Google it. It's a heavy duty, full synthetic, oil marketed for diesel engine use. For our purposes, its most important characteristic is that it has a high zinc content -- and zinc is a great lubricant for the relatively high-friction design of our valve-trains.

    Do your own research and come to your own conclusion... but I don't think you'll find a better wet clutch oil at any price. And many of the high price "motorcycle" oils do not look so great in a comparison to Rotella.

    For more than you'd ever want to know about oil, check out http://www.bobistheoilguy.com

    Great info, TV... I guess I prefer to kill more dinosaurs...
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    I'm not picky about oil as long as its from a MC manufacturer other than HD or says somewhere on the label it's OK for wet clutches.

    I can get the Valvoline ATV blend at the local auto parts stores but it's a bit of a drive to get the MC branded oils.

    10/40 is fine year round.

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    I use "Valvoline ATV 10w-40 4 stroke oil" in my 200x.
    1986 ATC250R
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    1985 ATC200X

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    I do what barnnet said^^. Always use thicker for summer thinner for winter!
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    Wow, thanks for all of the info guys! I do already have some Valvoline Motorcycle 10-40 at home that I use in my Yamaha xj750 Seca, and it says right on the bottle that it is for wet clutches. I guess I won't have to buy oil after all!! Again thanks for all the help!

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