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    3 Wheel Drive, hopefully the following will be of some use to you and others will have lots of ideas also..


    WELDING SUGGESTIONS FOR MIG


    SAFETY

    Do not ever cut corners with safety . . I have many times because it is incredibly easy to think, "I don't need the helmet or maybe the gloves or maybe the long sleeve shirt just to weld for 1 minute or just to put a tack weld on." . . You never know when weld will splatter, plus the effects of the light from the weld alone are cumulative and the lite is ultra violet.

    Do everything you possibly can to avoid breathing fumes from welding . . You simply can't avoid all the fumes, but weld in a ventilated area whenever possible and if you need to weld much on a workbench, you can buy a small 6" fan from anywhere for $10.00 and turn it on low before you weld.


    SOME DISCOUNT SHOPS

    Home Depot, Lowes, Amazon, White Cap, Harbor Freight, Ebay.and Eastwood.


    HELMET .............................. $50.00

    Get auto darkening with adjustable darkness . . No need o spend big bucks on one in your case . . The one below is a decent helmet for part time users and the price is hard to beat . . I would get at least 2 additional outside lenses in case they get discontinued because it is likely to get damaged from enough weld splatter that it will be difficult to see out of.

    http://www.eastwood.com/auto-darken-...FUVgfgodV-AArQ


    GLOVES

    imo in your particular case, you don't need gloves that are specifically designed for welding . . They are also pretty thick and a little cumbersome, so I would just get some thin leather gardening gloves from the hardware store that hopefully had some type of cuff on them that would cover your wrist.


    SHIRT

    Long sleeve as El Camexican suggested . . Heavy flannel is good . . Weld will instantly go thru a thin shirt . . You may also be able to buy slip on welding sleeves.


    PARTS CLEANING

    Clean all parts prior to cleaning . . Remove any oil but as mentioned, don't use brake cleaner . . If you think they are oily, you can wipe them down with lacquer thinner or similar.

    Buy a bunch of tooth brush sized stainless wire brushes and use one to scrub the area you plan to weld prior to welding then wipe the dust away.

    Remove plating from the area you plan to weld if they have plating . . A small bench grinder and/or grinding wheel attachment for a drill is handy as well as a wire wheel or wire wheel adapter for a drill.


    TOOLS

    Put the following on your welding cart . vise grips, a few spring clamps, a 1" diameter flat magnet, a magnetic 45% angle 2" x 2", wide nose pliers with wire cutter or separate wire cutter.


    WELDING GAS

    Put a sticky note next to the switch on the welder that reminds you to turn the gas on AND off.


    TOOL TRAY OR CUPS

    You can get small trays and cups that can mount to the cart to store tools and other stuff n . . Some welding carts also have drawers.


    PRACTICE PAD

    You can but a few squares of maybe 1/16", 1/8" and 3/16" thick metal and practice on those to improve your skill and also use them to practice on as you set the current and wire speed you need to to weld metal of a similar thickness of metal before you weld it.


    WELDING TIP PLACEMENT WHILE WELDING

    Different people use different techniques but you will figure out what works best for you but I usually hold the tip so it is pointing in the direction I am placing a bead and around 1/4" away from the metal . . If you hold it much farther away, the gas will not hit the weld and it will come out very bad . . If you hold the tip straight up and down, you can't see what you are welding.

    There are also lots of good 'How to mig weld" videos on youtube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loganm View Post
    I'm not coming back. My sources have already confirmed this place is full of morons, however, if you want to see the hack job extended swingarm I'm building tonight it'll be on the PBB. I'm out.
    Big words for welds, exaggerated claims, lame excuses for screwed up builds, constant bragging about "skillz", lame attempts at insults? I think I hear your Mommy calling you. Now go finish your homework, clean your plate, and get to bed early.

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    Liberalism suspends the intellect of its victims, while at the same time tricking them into believing that they're smarter than everyone else.


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    I've gotten sick from welding galvanized steel. Talk about muscle spasms! My back muscles were spasming so bad I couldn't sleep. Nearly the worst thing I've been through.

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    Just for the record, I am not a Grandfather, nor do I want to be at this time.

    Please, excuse me while I switch over my TIG to stick so I can weld in a I beam brace on my trike build, does anyone have a chipping I can borrow?, I seem to have misplaced mine in 1990.

    What is the PBB???, I really need to see that swingarm.
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    I'm ordering these torque boxes for my first welding project: http://www.manciniracing.com/usctoboxset1.html

    They will never be seen so that's a good thing, & there only 1/8" thick sheet metal. And this is the welder I bought:

    http://m.lincolnelectric.com/en-us/e...ncolnElectric)

    What wire should I use to weld the 1/8" steel plates? I won't be home to try my welder for a few days, I need to get a list going for things I need to buy. Gloves, welding hood, more wire (what size?)

    This is my welder & bottle, it's pretty small 75% something & 25% something else I can't remember.

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    I like .030 wire for under 3/16" and .035 for 3/16" and over.

    I only use the Argon CO2 mix which is 75/25 percent, straight CO2 is cheaper but does not weld as clean.

    I only use flux core wire for things like floor pans where once you clean it up a bit it does not matter and I only use it because it is cheaper.

    Also, you should not have any headaches with getting your tank refilled, that is a buy tank not a rental. If your tank is out of date my welding shop charges $15 bucks to test and recertify it, you don't have to wait they will just swap it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3 Wheel Drive View Post
    I'm ordering these torque boxes for my first welding project: http://www.manciniracing.com/usctoboxset1.html

    They will never be seen so that's a good thing, & there only 1/8" thick sheet metal. And this is the welder I bought:

    http://m.lincolnelectric.com/en-us/e...ncolnElectric)

    What wire should I use to weld the 1/8" steel plates? I won't be home to try my welder for a few days, I need to get a list going for things I need to buy. Gloves, welding hood, more wire (what size?)

    This is my welder & bottle, it's pretty small 75% something & 25% something else I can't remember.

    I can't see the photo of your tank, but if its a lot smaller than the 55 cubic feet tank I posted, I would take it back because it wont last long and it's a pita to get them charged, plus it will cost more to charge it in the long run if they charge a fixed labor fee for charging it.

    As far as doing the welds yourself, you must practice A LOT before you do this . . This is a high stress area and bad welds can easily break . . You need to get good penetration with the weld, and it is a fine line between poor penetration and burning a hole in the metal.

    As far as flux core goes, I would never use that for this app, plus the flux core is designed to be used without gas . . You can use it with gas but its just another potential contaminate imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3 Wheel Drive View Post
    I need to get a list going for things I need to buy.
    I posted a long list of suggestions for things to buy earlier.

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    An auto darkening helmet is a wonderful thing! Lowes sells a nice one for about a hundred bucks. I don't mind a standard helmet, but, when you are doing body panels, the auto darkening helmet is the ticket.

    I suggest you go to Lowes and get some varying thicknesses of metals from the hardware section. Once you have that, practice, practice, practice! After you've done that, practice some more! Not only do you have to learn your welder, you have to develop the technique. Technique gets better over time, but, you still have to get a feel for it before you start doing something like those torque boxes. Also, after you do several practice welds with the thickness metal you are going to be welding the most, and the welds have good penetration, you may be best to record the settings you are welding at. As an example; my Miller 211 likes to have the wire speed dial just a tad less then the material thickness dial setting. If you lift the access door for the wire spool and rollers, there may be a chart of recommended settings for various metal thicknesses.

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