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    Still can't believe people don't give banshees any credit. Can't you just accept your 250r isn't the only awesome ATV on the planet. They are definitely not banshee killers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YamaBoss View Post
    Still can't believe people don't give banshees any credit. Can't you just accept your 250r isn't the only awesome ATV on the planet. They are definitely not banshee killers.
    You've obviously never visted the Banshee HQ forum.

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    I give the guy credit. He didn't twist it wide open right away! It's no blaster tho..

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    Yep, its no blaster. I have seen worse, am a bit surprised that it fit that well, and I bet that he is one of the nicest guys you could ever hope to meet. I have never ridden a banshee, but I smoked one once. By smoked, I mean beat in a holeshot. Trish on here is a sweet bike, this appears to have required slightly less fabrication.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YamaBoss View Post
    Still can't believe people don't give banshees any credit.
    Maybe it's because they're notorious for not paying back loans.

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    Definitely no Blaster. On a serious note, I like the tri-z banshee much more than the 250r. It seems wrong to do that to an R. Like putting a dress on your son.


    This blaster of ours is just some old ragged out worked over leaky contraption that will blow your ear drums and roast your toes every time you shift.

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    And yes, it's a 200cc blaster still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RubberSalt View Post
    Definitely no Blaster. On a serious note, I like the tri-z banshee much more than the 250r. It seems wrong to do that to an R. Like putting a dress on your son.


    This blaster of ours is just some old ragged out worked over leaky contraption that will blow your ear drums and roast your toes every time you shift.

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    And yes, it's a 200cc blaster still.
    If its "smoking" banshees, its not still a 200cc blaster. What does the engine have done to it? Curious minds want to know.
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    From what i can remember.. Chambered head, nasty fast port job with triples and boyesen, 36mm carb, cr125 reed cage, timing advanced, that pipe, gutted air box+added 100 micron mesh as a prefilter, pro wedge tires, gearing.

    It's a 57mm stroke, and i think it's actually a 67mm bore. 1mm over size.

    Never said smoked, but it's a 2 stroke. So i suppose it smoked? lol The motor twist over 10k with the current set up. I'm not happy with the timing advanced though. I've actually started a side project of recreating the CDI for the blaster with an adjustable curve. It's loosly based of my Tecate CDI schematic. lol

    For the porting, some material was taken away, some added back. We we're limited on what we could add back, didn't own a tig at the time.
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    I mean I'm sure it's impressive but horsepower numbers... That's a big mountain to climb bud. I'd guess (just guessing) a Blaster to be about 28 HP or so? A Banshee must come out of the box with at least 50. I suppose it's not impossible but I'd like to see any video anywhere of any Blaster beating even a stock Banshee. Anyone can say what they want, but Banshees are just fricken fast!! I've never owned one but I applaud Yamaha for putting something out that's so outside of the box. I had an RD400 and that was great! Blasters are neat-o if you're like 12, but really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RubberSalt View Post
    From what i can remember.. Chambered head, nasty fast port job with triples and boyesen, 36mm carb, cr125 reed cage, timing advanced, that pipe, gutted air box+added 100 micron mesh as a prefilter, pro wedge tires, gearing.

    It's a 57mm stroke, and i think it's actually a 67mm bore. 1mm over size.

    Never said smoked, but it's a 2 stroke. So i suppose it smoked? lol The motor twist over 10k with the current set up. I'm not happy with the timing advanced though. I've actually started a side project of recreating the CDI for the blaster with an adjustable curve. It's loosly based of my Tecate CDI schematic. lol
    My apologies you said "took down shees", I threw in the synonym "smoked". Seems like some tall tails...got vids?

    I am running no porting, .030 milled head with FMF gold series and +4 timing (everything else stock). I will be down in LSOK late October...I'll give ya a go.
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    Blasters came out at 17hp, banshees in the low 30s. The blaster also weighs less. A set of pipes on a banshee can get it around 40hp alone. The 250r can hang with the banshee no problem, stock vs stock. 250r had about 32hp.

    Blasters are heavily underrated. They are horrible constricted. But 30 or so hours into a port jobs changes it from a turd to a race ready cylinder. I wish i had video of this blaster. I've got a few of the last build we did, it wasn't as extreme, but did hit our mark of 10,500RPM.

    Any blaster? Does it include stroked and big bore? I shall make you eat your words.

    This guy is a member here, rarely visits.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbl94ExIeXs
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gCLP6FmSgw<- I think he lost against this one lol

    This is one of old builds that I've got video of. It got dynoed at 32hp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RubberSalt View Post
    Any blaster? Does it include stroked and big bore? I shall make you eat your words.
    Never said blaster. Good Luck
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    In that vid of our old blaster, that fmf fatty pipe pushes 10500 RPM. You can actually pull the RPM these days with a phone app LOL.

    As for head milling, we got no idea how much we took off for the blaster in that video. Had an old timer mill it until the lip on the base was flush with the cooling fin.

    The drag piped blaster had ome really funny ebay special head that was chambered all silly. It actually touched the piston when we built it. We were hung over and clearanced it up at the dunes with a dremel until it fit. It only had about 120psi, but thats static. My guess is at the high RPM range, the squish velocity was about right. We've taken the head off and I've began measuring/began my math(s). I want to try casting parts, and a air cooled head looks easy enough!

    You never did. >.< The +4 timing caught me off guard. Thats a common blaster mod.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RubberSalt View Post
    You never did. >.< The +4 timing caught me off guard. Thats a common blaster mod.
    its also a common banshee mod.
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    Makes me wonder what the ignition curve for the banshee is. I hope they arn't booged up by Yamaha like the blaster was. They are from the same era.
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