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    Yamaha YTM Front Shock Disassembly How-To

    Yamaha YTM Front Shock Disassembly How-To


    OK Yamaha had some good ideas when making the YTM series trikes but these front forks were not one of them. They do bend, and the seals are difficult to replace making them susceptible to be neglected. I will post up a How-To disassemble the front forks for maintenance. First off sorry for the poor quality pictures, it is hard to work one handed. If you have any questions please ask, even though I am no expert I may have forgotten to post up info. that I do know. Also, note that I put wood blocks in my vise to keep from damaging the fork tubes. Pictures are from a YTM 200 front shock, the 225 DX uses a very similar shock, if there are any noteworthy differences I will post them up tomorrow when I pull apart a set of those (I can’t think of any huge changes).

    The Shock


    Top fork cap. These can be a pain. You are supposed to be able to press down the cap to expose a ring clip that you can remove. With the clip removed the cap pops out the top of the fork tube. Most of the time it’s not this simple as the caps rust up and get stuck. If the cap get stuck see below.




    I press down the cap with a screwdriver or punch then use a small flat tip screwdriver to pry out the ring. You can see the ring in the picture below. I take the screw driver at about a 60 degree angle and pry down on the ring near the end then when it pops out of the grove I slid another flat tip screwdriver under it and pry it up and work the lower screwdriver around till the ring is out.





    The Ring





    The Cap should pop off once the ring is removed. Sometimes you may have to tap on it with a and socket .




    If the Cap Gets Stuck Read This

    When the cap gets totally stuck this is what I do. I center punch the middle of the cap and drill a hole most of the way through the cap. Next I tap the hole. Then I put a socket on top of the fork (27mm fits the outside of the tube but the cap is smaller and will fit inside the socket, this is key). Now I thread a bolt through the socket (with the needed spacers if the screw is longer then it needs to be) and tighten it. As the screw tightens up it will pull the cap up. Just be sure you have a few threads started before the screw tries to pull the cap out, this is why I start with a little bit longer screw and spacers then back it out and add spacers after pulling the cap out a little.

    Tapped Cap


    Socket Puller



    After the Cap is Removed…
    Pull out the spring.




    Now Fill (with the fork still extended) fill the fork with oil (I use old motor oil). You want to fill it about 1.5” from the top. Now but the cap back in and the locking ring. I would clean the inside of the tube and the cap before you put the cap back in so it doesn’t get stuck. If you had to drill and tap a hole to remove the cap and you drilled too far so the hole it strait though, leave the screw sticking in the cap.



    Remove The Lower Retainer Clip
    You will also need to remove the lower retainer clip. Use internal clip pliers (well worth the $5 investment by the way) to remove the clip. Sometimes one side of the clip will be stuck, I take my small flat tip screwdriver to pop one side out and work my way around the tube if needed. There is a washer under the clip, don’t worry about trying to pry this out and it will come out easily with the seal.

    1984 Yamaha YT 60 Tri Zinger(current project)
    1983 Yamaha YTM 200 (rear suspension kit)..... long term project
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    Now with the shock filled with oil we put it in a press and compress the shock. The oil with pressurize and push the seal out. I made my own press out of an old bed frame and bottle jack, it worked fine. I do suggest holding a rag over the seal as some oil will squeeze out but as long as you pump slowly it doesn’t make too much of a mess. You can feel the seal slide out.




    The Seal




    Again



    With the seal removed from the lower shock body the top tube can come out. Sometimes it will pull apart easily but sometimes the lower bushing will stick. You can pull it apart of clamp the top tube and tap gently on the bottom shock body. It also helps to remove the cap if it will come out easily.






    Now you have the tube out of the lower shock body and can check the straitens of the tube. I remove all the clips and bushings then roll the tube down a piece off glass and watch for gaps between the tube and glass. I use a piece of glass because I know it is darn close to perfectly strait.

    Bushings Removed


    Checking for Straitness




    The Parts


    Tools that I have been using.



    Well, that about covers it....
    1984 Yamaha YT 60 Tri Zinger(current project)
    1983 Yamaha YTM 200 (rear suspension kit)..... long term project
    2004 BMW R1150R
    1972 Honda CT 70
    2007 Lifan 110

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    Great thread! Very informative.

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    I already bookmarked this thread for when I will find the motivation to rebuilt my ytm forks. Thank you

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    I think this thread need to be moved into the new World Class help forum.

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    thanks maybe ill finally fell like redoing my shocks
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    thanks mike and thanks thefox for the great tutorial

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    you have any more amazing how toos please share them i learned alot!

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    WOW. I've done tecate and SX forks and they were both easy. No yamaha's for me. (Looks like I may have to take that back to help out fabio) Seriously though this is the stupidest thing I've seen in a while.
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    Very informative. I'm saving this to my favorites....
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    Does anyone happen to know how this part is removed from the fork of a YTM? Screw, clip. pressed? Has me stumped, want to know before I pull them down. Mine are making a nasty clunk as they return to full extended.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/181039677708...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Camexican View Post
    Does anyone happen to know how this part is removed from the fork of a YTM? Screw, clip. pressed? Has me stumped, want to know before I pull them down. Mine are making a nasty clunk as they return to full extended.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/181039677708...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
    When I ripped mine apart they just fell out. No clip, bolt, nothing. The inside of the forks were really beat up so I'm not sure if that is how they should be or not.

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    Today I took apart a spare fork I have to refresh myself as to how they work. Simplest fork in the works and possibly the crappiest as well.

    So here's the thing; I know these are never going to do anything but bounce up and down, but what's driving me nuts is the noise mine are making, particularly when they top out. The bottoming I can live with and maybe even eliminate with enough oil in them, but when they rebound back to open after either a good bounce, or if I pull the front end up for a wheelie they make a terrible metallic noise.

    I was concerned that my steering head had come loose, but it's fine. I replaced the ed out balls with tapered rollers when I rebuild it and have checked it since.

    I don't recall these noises when the trike was new. Could it be as simple as changing to 30W oil? (using 20 at the moment) or maybe the underside of the stock seals have more rubber that the seals I installed and this deadens the impact?

    Was thinking of adding a Teflon washer under the seal as well and maybe one for bottoming out as well. Do any of yours make these sounds? Has anyone gotten rid of them?
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