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Thread: CPSC at it again!! Youth ATV's and dirtbikes to be banned!, along with a/m parts!!

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    Brad200X is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerAt the back of the pack
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    This really pi$$es me off. By the time I'm ready to have kids there won't be any youth bikes left! I hope this is only a temporary thing...
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    I just talked to a lady at the CPSC about this banning of some of the new bikes, etc for the young kids. It is true, but she said that they can be sold if the dealer checks the paint to see that the lead level is below the number set. I have no idea what is involved in the checking but would be suprprised is any dealers are set up to do that.
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    What about parts? Why would they need to ban the sale of parts too?
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    Tell her to check the lead content in the back seat of a Toyota Prius hybrid. Nothin' like sittin your infant on top of 300lbs of lead............. Lets face it, no rational person who is in their right mind could even think up this kind of stuff.

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    hmm

    Next they will take our guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat-BoX View Post
    Next they will take our guns.
    Or perhaps die trying.

    Welcome to big government. I pray for my 4 year old who will forever have to pay for the "change"
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    This suject is being discussed on other non ATV baords as well.

    http://www.thedieselgarage.com/forum...ad.php?t=70888

    In case you cannot open it, here are soem highlights.

    Quote Originally Posted by John_G View Post
    Yes, it's the CPSC and not the Federal Law that is doing this. Our local Representatives were on TV explaining that the law is clear, the components MUST pose a reasonable danger of injestion by the user and contain lead - clearly there is no danger of children chewing on schrader valves or shift levers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lonesome7.3 View Post
    These are the same people that took three wheelers away from us.
    Quote Originally Posted by John_G View Post
    3 wheelers killed, maimed and injured hundreds if not thousands of children because they were improperly supervised, trained or simply riding units that were way out of their experience level. Personally, I think that was the right decision at the time.

    The problem is not "bad" parents, but with three wheels the kids FEEL safer and more secure than they really are. With a "bike", you either balance or don't get out of the starting gate.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lonesome7.3 View Post
    How the hell can you say it was the right decision? It was far from the right decision. I guess you believe guns kill injure and maim thousands of people also. Do you not blame the person holding the gun at the time? I still ride and love three wheelers. It has nothing to do with their design. It has everything to do with some one getting on a machine they do not know how to operate. How in the hell can you blame a machine for the riders lack of responsibility?

    Oh and by the way, kids are still getting hurt on quads and bikes for the same reasons. They are not properly trained or they are riding something well past their skill level. It has NOTHING do to with the machine itself.

    This is my son. He is four now but was three at the time of these photographs. There he is riding with proper adult supervision and being trained properly as well. Plus, he is on a machine with in his skill level. Not to mention the fact that he is wearing proper safety gear and riding in an area he can negotiate at his present skill level. That is what should happen when ever a child throws a leg over ANY ATV. Had this happened more often when trikes came out, we would be seeing the 2010 Tri-Z’s, 250R’s, and Tecates coming out soon.
    I posted photographs of my son on his Zinger. People still do not get it. You cannot blame a machine for the errors of the operator.

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    Update: I finally got a chance to talk to my local dealer. He's always been a small engine shop, making his money over the years selling mowers, chain saws, etc. In the last two years he's done well selling Chinese ATV's and dirt bikes. I've been very supportive, sending him as much business as I can. This guy's different because he's not a fly-by-night operation and he really supports what he sells. But I digress. The point is I was worried about all the inventory he had that I didn't think he'd be able to sell. He showed me a letter from the CPSC that says there's a one year stay on the enforcement of this new law. Machines manufactured after April 2009 will not be exempt from the law, presumably becuase the manufacturers have had time to fix the problems. Everything prior to that can still be sold under the stay.

    Here's the funny thing: the way they're fixing this is the manufacturer is sending out all new stickers to put on the ATV's and dirt bikes saying nobody under 16 can ride them. I went to the Iowa Deer Classic over the weekend and there was an ATV dealer there called Lueken ATV's from Sullivan MO. They were doing essentially the same thing: they had 110cc quads with "no riders under 16" stickers. Apparently this is perfectly legal!

    So the news is apparently improving on powersports for kids....
    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
    God knows they're not looking to make any effort to do anything, never mind move their foot to shift. If there was something that dispensed Cheetos every time they shifted that might be a different story. Welcome to America, where the biggest is best and even fat people who are too lazy to shift can climb a mountain.

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    That is great news. I just hope it was not a rumor when he told you about it.

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    85 YT175 For sale,
    83 YTM 225DX,
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    82 Tri-Zinger 60 For sale,
    8? YTZ 80 Conversion,
    85 YT 125,
    89 Pro Hauler 230,
    05 YFZ 450,
    99 V-Star,

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    Thanks for posting that.

    85 Tri-Z's
    85 Quad-Z,
    85 YT175 For sale,
    83 YTM 225DX,
    83 YTM 200L For sale,
    82 Tri-Zinger 60 For sale,
    8? YTZ 80 Conversion,
    85 YT 125,
    89 Pro Hauler 230,
    05 YFZ 450,
    99 V-Star,

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    Does that mean we'll have to put those stickers on our kid's Power Wheels too?
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    I think I will.

    85 Tri-Z's
    85 Quad-Z,
    85 YT175 For sale,
    83 YTM 225DX,
    83 YTM 200L For sale,
    82 Tri-Zinger 60 For sale,
    8? YTZ 80 Conversion,
    85 YT 125,
    89 Pro Hauler 230,
    05 YFZ 450,
    99 V-Star,

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    If I ever have kids they are going to be so GD spoiled... 50cc trike, 50cc dirt bikes, 50cc snowmobiles... not like stupid laws like this will kill the hobby... just make it more difficult to find parts.

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    I just picked up some sprockets at my local motorsports place. The parts guy said Polaris and Eton are not affected by this ban. Their plastics passed the acceptable lead content, which is how the youth atv's got sucked into this to begin with. Nothing to do with batteries, valve stems, etc...

    I can't see them risking selling these, if this wasn't true. I tried to find some info on it, but came up empty.

    They have them advertised right on their web page (near the bottom).

    http://www.monroe-motorsports.com/

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