Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 24

Thread: Need help Tecate guys. PVL ignition on my T3? What is it?

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    NE Indiana
    --
    1,067

    Need help Tecate guys. PVL ignition on my T3? What is it?

    I started tearing down my donor engine and the flywheel and stator look totally different. The engine on the outside is an exact match of my 85 T3. But when i took off the flywheel cover the flywheel and stator are different.

    All I know is it says PVL made in germany on both. Here are some pics. Is this a KX set up? KDX? Maybe this is a KX or KDX engine? I know the cylinder is Tecate for sure and everything else looks Tecate. Can anyone help?
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails IM000378.JPG   IM000379.JPG   IM000380.JPG   IM000381.JPG  

  2. #2
    Brad200X's Avatar
    Brad200X is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerAt the back of the pack
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Will County, IL
    --
    357
    I believe that is an aftermarket stator/flywheel setup. Somebody mentioned PVL in one of the recent Tecate resto threads. As for the motor, the only way I can tell them apart is by the cylinder, and I guess the only difference's in the bottom end is the stator/flywheel and the tranny. Not 100% though. Hopefully somebody who knows the ID numbers can help you.
    Rides I own:
    '85 200X(old smokey)
    '81 ATC250R(Bassani pipe, Wiseco piston, Vesrah rod, and AMS offset rims)
    '84 KXT250 Red(the new money pit!)
    '96 KX125(FMF pipe, Boyesen reeds, One Industries graphic kit, etc.)
    '85 KX125(vintage racer. Technically it was a practice bike)
    '78 DT400(the lone Yamaha)

  3. #3
    fabiodriven's Avatar
    fabiodriven is offline Aspiring romance novel cover model, and the Official 3WW slayer of thieves and swindlers. Catch me if you can
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    The woods
    --
    10,515
    PVL? Sounds like a score! No lights, though.
    85 Tri-Zinger 60
    85 ATC250SX
    86 ATC250SX
    87 ATC250SX
    02 XR650L conversion
    84 ATC 480R

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    NE Indiana
    --
    1,067
    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
    PVL? Sounds like a score! No lights, though.
    Nope, no extra wire for lights but it is a different setup. The flywheel is small and in the middle of the stator instead of the stock flywheel surrounding the stator. The flywheel magnets are built into it and it looks pretty rugged. Is this a good ignition? Should I use this instead buying a Ricky setup? Is it going to rev more like a KX. I just wish I knew more about this.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Oswego NY
    --
    1,935
    If you decide to sell that PLV let me know. I would love to run a PLV on my 87 T3 300.

    MIK6 / Mike
    TECATE RIDER, HASPIN SURVIVOR!!
    Trikefest 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 and beyond
    RAFFAs Ice-fest 09, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15
    Pensyltucky 09, 12, 13, 14, 15
    New England Ride 4/13

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    NE Indiana
    --
    1,067
    Holy crap, here is the instructions for instalation! This might be quite difficult.
    http://www.pentonimports.com/install.htm

    I might sell it because i don't know how it will effect my engines performance. I would just like to know a little more about it if anyone knows. If running this thing means i'm going to have to go get a bigger carb, custom pipe and gear the crap outta my bike, i'm not thinking i want to mess with it. i'd probably just stick with a Ricky setup. But if this is a good useable ignition, i'll give it a shot.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Oswego NY
    --
    1,935
    i sent you a PM

    MIK6 / Mike
    TECATE RIDER, HASPIN SURVIVOR!!
    Trikefest 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 and beyond
    RAFFAs Ice-fest 09, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15
    Pensyltucky 09, 12, 13, 14, 15
    New England Ride 4/13

  8. #8
    the tecate kid's Avatar
    the tecate kid is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerAt the back of the pack
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Cincinnati, OHIO
    --
    406
    I have one. the first time that i installed it, I had it 180 degrees off. the instructions were somewhat vague. contact TECAT-Z here on the boards. I told me how to set mine up at trikefest. The ignition is very quick revving with it, as far as running a pipe/carb with it, I wouldnt see why you would have to. It is far more reliable than the stock set-up I can tell you that. I would consider it a score. Price them new. Not cheap.
    Been There...Dug That.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    NE Indiana
    --
    1,067
    Quote Originally Posted by the tecate kid View Post
    I have one. the first time that i installed it, I had it 180 degrees off. the instructions were somewhat vague. contact TECAT-Z here on the boards. I told me how to set mine up at trikefest. The ignition is very quick revving with it, as far as running a pipe/carb with it, I wouldnt see why you would have to. It is far more reliable than the stock set-up I can tell you that. I would consider it a score. Price them new. Not cheap.
    Cool, I was planning on getting a Ricky setup and I guess i can use this and save the $250 for that. money is tight so I like to save where i can.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    NE Indiana
    --
    1,067
    I do have another question, There is a coil with the PVL but I don't have a cdi. The coil is rather large and bulky, is it possible the coil and cdi are one unit? If not would I be able to use my stock cdi with it?

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    NE Indiana
    --
    1,067
    Now that i have the flywheel off I notice it has no key (chuck key? Kotter key? whatever they call them now days lol) It just bolts on and uses no key unlike the OEM and Ricky. Is this because the flywheel is so small and light that it can be ran like this? It seems like it would be easy to knock the timing off without a key.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    overton, PA
    --
    5,257
    ther eis no keyway and ther eis no cdi its just a coil and apick up on the fluwheel ( similar to a chainsaw) you have an verry pricey part right there! i have a kx one if you want to trade???lol but that is the ultimate ignition set up if you dont need lights extremlysimple and bulletproof. a pita to get set but inc eyou do hold on for dear life its a huge diffrence and willmake the tecate almost rev similar to a banshee.
    ok here goes, 85 atc70,2 84 atc70's 83 alt50,83 atc110 , 70 us 90 parot green, 85/86 350x garage queen, stock rider 85 350x, project 85 350x 85 250r drag bike, 2 85 250sx's, alt185, , scat tracker?99blaster,85 250r rider,85 250r ice racer project ,93 kx500,99 xr200r, 91 dr250s ,89 lt500 quadzilla,88 lt250quadracer, 88 trx250r race full on race quad,, 01 yamahakodiak400, kawaki kd100,lt50 for my doughters,93 300ex, 230 quadsport, lt185, lt250 quadrunner,84200s, is that enough?

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    NE Indiana
    --
    1,067
    Quote Originally Posted by brapp View Post
    ther eis no keyway and ther eis no cdi its just a coil and apick up on the fluwheel ( similar to a chainsaw) you have an verry pricey part right there! i have a kx one if you want to trade???lol but that is the ultimate ignition set up if you dont need lights extremlysimple and bulletproof. a pita to get set but inc eyou do hold on for dear life its a huge diffrence and willmake the tecate almost rev similar to a banshee.
    Well, I guess i'll give it a try then. Sounds like I got lucky with this one.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    saratoga, ny
    --
    2,819
    digity x had a pvl on his old t3, bought it off ebay new for like 425 bucks. complete set up. pvl is an awesome ignition and unlike the instructions they arent all that hard to set up. you will definately notice an improvement over the stock t3 ignition and even a kx. the smaller flywheels are where the higher revs come from. they put out like double the voltage of a stock set up, so a hotter spark. you got a gem right there, i wouldnt sell it if i was you, but then again im not you.
    1985 KXT 250 Tecate - kx cylinder, kx ignition, bassani headpipe, answer silencer, v-force reeds, 38mm airstyker carb, +2 franks swinger, raptor rear shock.

    1996 YSF240 Blaster - maxxed out!!!

    Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "HOLY SH-T, what a ride!"

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    southern oregon
    --
    2,338
    Quote Originally Posted by scooterroo View Post
    the smaller flywheels are where the higher revs come from.
    flywheel mass has no affect on rpm potential.. if there is an rpm gain its from changes in the timing or strength of the spark. I personally wouldn't touch a pvl if I planned to ride on any surface other than sand...

//ArrowChat Integreation Code //