Homegrown firepower!!!

[DohcBikes]

weird azz doooshbaag

Why is it ok for some members but not others to address people this way?

Why is it ok for some members but not others to post bait and attempt incite anger on a regular basis?

This place has always been that way. Some members get a pass while others are crucified.

Is there an extra fee I could pay to say what I really wanna say to people without getting banned from this desert again?

[El Camexican]

If you think getting hit by a stray bullet is breaking some sort of rule I'd like to hear which one.

"Always confirm your target, as well as what’s in front, behind, and around it"

Obviously not the dead guys fault, but a rule had to be broken for the death to occur. I knew two people that died in hunting accidents, both were preventable had this rule been followed. Unfortunately there are a lot of drinkers and bone heads in the bush that call themselves hunters which is why we always took an extra day and drove as far away from the city as possible to deer hunt.

[DohcBikes]

Don't know about y'all but the first thing I learned about guns is that it is a machine, and machines fail.

How do you know the person shot didnt make the mistake of not wearing hi viz clothing?

How do you know the other guy didnt have a drop fire or other anomaly?

You guys are attempting to imply that these 4 rules if followed can prevent every accidental gun death. That is plain and simply ignorant.

For the record I own all kinds of guns and have been a lifetime hunting and lifetime habitat permit holder for 25 years.

[DohcBikes]

Not sure who said it but the point that most people wouldn't be psychologically prepared to take a human like is a huge counterpoint that wrecks your imagined theory of a massive civilian army.

I personally know hundreds of hunters, as many of us probably do. The majority of people these days don't even have the sack to punch a human in the face let alone shoot them with a firearm in an attempt to take their life. Blame it on estrogen.

As a side note, if theyd just legalize punching people in the face this country would be a thousand times better. Certainly wouldn't see as many loud mouthed punks calling people names or disrespecting for no apparent reason anymore.

[El Camexican]

Don't know about y'all but the first thing I learned about guns is that it is a machine, and machines fail.

How do you know the person shot didnt make the mistake of not wearing hi viz clothing?

- "Never Point The Gun At Something You Are Not Prepared To Destroy", or "Always Be Sure Of Your Target And What Is Behind It"

How do you know the other guy didnt have a drop fire or other anomaly?

- "Never Point The Gun At Something You Are Not Prepared To Destroy"

You guys are attempting to imply that these 4 rules if followed can prevent every accidental gun death. That is plain and simply ignorant.

- Actually they would, every time.

For the record I own all kinds of guns and have been a lifetime hunting and lifetime habitat permit holder for 25 years.

Good to hear that, so why are you arguing on the side of the Bambi fans?

If a firearm is properly carried and pointed only at what one wants to kill there should never be an excuse accidental death. The four rules are PERFECT if followed to the letter.
1. Always Assume a Gun Is Loaded
2. Never Point The Gun At Something You Are Not Prepared To Destroy
3. Always Be Sure Of Your Target And What Is Behind It
4. Keep Your Finger Off The Trigger Until Your Sights Are On The Target

And a little common sense such as opening your chamber before crossing a fence, or any other obstacle that would require not having your muzzle pointed at the ground goes a long way towards violating rule #2 in certain situations.

[El Camexican]

Not sure who said it but the point that most people wouldn't be psychologically prepared to take a human like is a huge counterpoint that wrecks your imagined theory of a massive civilian army.

I personally know hundreds of hunters, as many of us probably do. The majority of people these days don't even have the sack to punch a human in the face let alone shoot them with a firearm in an attempt to take their life. Blame it on estrogen.

Don't mistake the hesitation of a man to kill another human such as in a bar fight, or over a parking spot with that of a war situation. There is no comparison. I know a number of people who have killed humans in battle that wouldn't even raise their voice in an argument, let alone punch someone, or shoot them while on friendly soil.

[DohcBikes]

Hear that folks?

Every accident that happens is avoidable.

You are comparing soldiers to civilians. Moot.

Who the heck taught el how to break down quotes?

[El Camexican]

Who the heck taught el how to break down quotes?

It's a pain it the ass! But if Scooter can learn to do it so can I!

[barnett468]

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FIFY

In both cases someone broke one of the 4 rules of gun safety. Darwin wins again.

They intentionally went into an area where live ammo was being fired from unknown directions and you expect me to feel sorry for them? .

EXACTLY what part of this do you not understand . . If there was no hunting, there would be no hunting related deaths . . If a hunter is dumb/stupid/idiotic/moronic/retarded, enough to believe that it is a perfect world and people are perfect and therefore everyone will follow the rules and the rules are perfect, and therefore hunting in an area with many other hunters whose location is unknown is perfectly safe, I have no problem with the process of natural selection taking over, however, I do think it's unfortunate that the shooter didn't shoot themselves instead, or at least in addition to shooting someone else, this way we could get 2 for 1.

So by your thinking if YOU jump in your car and run to Burger King and get killed by someone texting and driving in the process of picking up your cheese burger , YOU are responsible because YOU KNOW that there are people driving and texting and YOU CHOSE to head out on the road anyway. Right?

Your question is NOT an attempt to get a serious reply from me . . You and many other obviously need to learn that when people ask questions with the intent of getting a serious/honest answer, they phrase them in a way that is not abrasive or sarcastic etc . . Asking them in an accusatorial way may not elicit the desired result.

If you truly believe that I think that getting shot in a hunting accident can be equated to getting hit by another driver on my way to Chucky Cheese's, then it is simply impossible to have an intelligent, rational, discussion with you, which I realized is the problem with many people here a very long time ago which is one of the reasons I rarely post on political topics.

You might as well say that people that got asbestosis from their work environment are responsible for it or that people that get respiratory ailments or possibly diseases because the live in the Phoenix smog basin are responsible for it because they choose to live there.

There are in fact unnecessary risks and necessary risks, and breathing the air wherever you live is a necessary one . . I could suggest that you must think that it's peoples fault if they get respiratory problems from breathing the air were they live therefore you think they should simply hold their breath instead.

Hunting for SPORT is NOT a NECESSITY . . This means that it is an UNNECESSARY risk.

[barnett468]

If a firearm is properly carried and pointed only at what one wants to kill there should never be an excuse accidental death. The four rules are PERFECT if followed to the letter.
1. Always Assume a Gun Is Loaded
2. Never Point The Gun At Something You Are Not Prepared To Destroy
3. Always Be Sure Of Your Target And What Is Behind It
4. Keep Your Finger Off The Trigger Until Your Sights Are On The Target

You miss an important point or have left something out for some reason . . Some peoples posts make it appear as though they believe that every hunter is a perfect shot . . Obviously if a bullet misses a shooters intended target, it will not magically instantly stop, and in fact, if its path is unobstructed, it can continue to travel well beyond the intended target . . Also, bullets can ricochet of of some objects thereby making the path of their trajectory impossible to know, and these ricocheting bullets can injur people if they get hit by them.

[barnett468]

Good to hear that, so why are you arguing on the side of the Bambi fans?

I for one don't know, but perhaps he is simply supportive of EVERYONES right to have an opinion, especially without them be attacked for it by those that have opinions that don't agree with it.

[barnett468]

Yea, you are

No I'm not.

Yet you keep coming back to defend your anti-hunting comments

You keep coming back to defend to attack me for my opinions.

Then why are you posting at 3am?

Because I like to laugh and yours and scootertrash's posts are so hilarious I stayed up hoping that you guys would make some more.

[barnett468]

MAN I LOVE MAKING EXTRA POSTS TO CORRECT MY ERRORS

"You keep coming back to defend to attack me for my opinions. "

should be

"You keep coming back to attack me for my opinions. "

[knappyfeet]

.......bots

[Scootertrash]

"You keep coming back to attack me for my opinions. "

Victim

LOL

Like you attacked moozy's opinion?

Like you're attacking me for my opinion?

So what you're saying is "Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, as long as it's the same as mine. Stop liking what I don't like."