Kate Steinle verdict

[Shep1970]

Glamy, i'm gonna have to meet you some day/ you've gotta be quite the character, (not in a bad way) just a lil' goofy.
Gonna pass on the bendin' over though/. Ha
Shep

[fabiodriven]

The new Ramses Ribb?

[Scootertrash]

I think what Scooter is saying (and he is welcome to correct me if I am misinterpreting his comment) is that no matter how light or heavy the trigger pull is, a firearm in proper mechanical condition requires human manipulation to fire a round, a finger placed on the trigger and pressure applied. This is why the rules of firearm handling are so universally and deadly important. Unless a firearm that has been involved in an accident of some sort is indubitably found to be mechanically deficient or unsafe by at least one competent expert gunsmith, there is absolutely zero excuse for an AD no matter what the circumstances.

Yes, that was my point about posting the rules of gun handling.

dude's comment is just an example of how he's reached that age of puberty that he thinks he knows everything, like 14 or 15.

I have more, but I'm going to work to help support the illegals and their "anchor babies".

I'll post more later, even tho dude knows exactly what I'll be posting.

[Scootertrash]

Right. And your "parents" comment was a compliment. Save your Alinsky tactics for someone else.

Still waiting on a link to your video that proves this guy wasn't the one who stole the gun.

[RamsesRibb]

People get shot every day. I was stabbed by an ex con this summer that shouldn't have been released either. Don't see me asking others to give a shlt. The only reason you are interested is a political agenda. Sad story, nope I wouldnt give a shlt if it happened to me and nobody talked about it.

Stories are hand picked for the media spotlight in order to create emotions. You are being led to focus on this story.

Tax paying = In support of corruption.

I was stabbed once too. I was about about 10 and was stabbed by a classmate at church with a pencil. I never told anyone. This guy was a hateful person.He actually stabbed another person at school a few years later and was expelled. He also mistreated his mother when she tried to control his bad behavior. One day as a young man of about 18 karma caught up with him and he was killed in an accident.

[RamsesRibb]

Somewhere out there is an Indian wishing some would have put that on a sign and stuck it up on Plymouth Rock a few hundred years ago.

Seriously thought, times change, wars are fought and laws are established. The issue over the past 50 years or so in the USA is a lack of will to enforce them as you well know. You can thank your pass the buck career politicians for this mess. You absolutely need immigration, but not illegal immigration.

The problem for the last 50 years has been communists and globalists pushing an agenda of usurping control away from the white males.

[RamsesRibb]

Poco nailed it.

There is one fundamental difference between this guy and any other homeless or poor American felony defendant. Thus guy had the full fund-raising force of Liberal outrage on his side and was HEAVILY represented in court thanks to the donations from pathological altruists who are merely protecting the agenda and not the subject. Seriously, there were several folks bankrolling this guys defense only because they were protecting the ideology they vote for. These are the true racists. They never really care about any of the "immigrants" or "refugees" that they pretend to care about. If a Republican professed to hate broccoli, Liberals would line up to start broccoli gardens in every back yard in San Francisco as a way to nurture feel-good nonsense and throw a middle finger at conservatives. Its about the battle between Right and Left and it has been for a very long time. The foreign folks are merely pawns to each side. Useful idiots? No, useful immigrants. Adults these days are as petty as their juvenile counterparts are and most are not very far removed from their highschool days thanks to social feedback loops like social media provides.

This case was stacked against the victim, not because the assailant was a "poor immigrant" but because he elicited ire from most conservatives and most of those folks in favor of Rule of Law. This was never about "justice". It was always about politics. Its not about brown folks. Its about maintaining Liberal dominance of domestic policy. its not about "creating a better life for Latino immigrants from Mexico, and Central and South America. Its about San Francisco maintaining their self-righteous pet projects and protecting California`s self-defeating policies on immigration. Same is true of Obamacare. When I CAN find an eloquent and thoughtful Liberal to discuss the subject, they almost always end up agreeing that Obamacare is forced capitalism but stop short of shutting off support for such stupid ideas because ultimately, it casts a poor light on their own reason and decision-making skills. Its akin to defending your POS girlfriend or boyfriend to your parents because you are embarrassed that they "told you so" long before you realized it. Its all about not having to admit you were wrong.

Its not about justice. Its about winning against "the Nazis".....to them, their entire ideology that they have invested all their emotional effort in was on trial in San Fran. Might just as well called it The State of California, City of San Francisco, and random homeless Latino immigrant VS. Conservative America.

Funny how they have raised tens of thousands to help homeless Latinos ( San Francisco has been trying to get rid of all homeless people secretly for years now, ironically) skip a murder rap but the same "anti-racists" lift NO fingers to help those homeless who aren't shooting women tourists because they were bored or ignorant. Nothing more racist than using a man of different ethnic background to further your political agenda. Same as using a man of different ethnicity to pick all your cotton for free. But hey, it helps these people sleep at night, right? Do they think white homeless deserve less consideration and effort than Latinos? Apparently so. That's called racism.

But hey, "I'm an activist" so they'll send $50 to a GoFudMe account for "Justice for Pedro", they`ll change their FB profile pic to the Mexican flag and say stupid shyt like "I am Pancho Villa" and "Che Rules".....not because they give a rats behind but because it gives them the illusion of looking like "I`m on the right side of history" or "anti-fash" or of moral superiority to anyone whom doesn't agree. Its honestly sickening. Hundreds of thousands of homeless INCLUDING VETERANS and the only homeless person Liberal Establishment cares about is the brown one....because Trump makes me cry

There is no such thing as pure Altruism.....people do good for other people because of what they themselves get from it. You may feel good about helping other less fortunate people. You may be trying to score with a Liberal chick. You may be trying to impress your friends on social media with your feigned righteous indignation or your protestations against generic "oppression" but no matter what your motive, you do things like this ultimately because of how it makes YOU feel. It could be argued that Altruism helps those in need no matter the personal agenda of the giver, which I agree, but its time to stop pretending in ideals like selflessness and altruism because nothing is ever as it appears on the outside and a specific group likes to hide behind all this smoke and mirrors.

The fact remains, anyone with enough money can skip a murder or manslaughter rap. Ask OJ. Ask that "affluenza" kid who killed those people drunk driving. The system isn't stacked against non-whites like CNN and Democraps lead you to believe. Its stacked against the Poor. White poor. Black poor. Brown poor. All poor. You getting a public defender means you get a jail sentence guaranteed. That's why this guy walked. All the Liberal donors to his defence fund ensured he would walk and that "the ideology" of Sanctuary Cities survives to see another day (Ill bet Cali gets BILLIONS from the federal gov for these people or else broke-assed Cali wouldn't care about him one bit). Nobody cares one bit of some homeless white trash guy in California was killing people (its happened) but you put the "ethnic victim of the Week" on the news and now everyone feels so sorry for him and therefore his life is worth more than Jim Bob`s life....because racism.

I`ll find the Malcolm X interview where he says exactly that much....that Liberal democrats use minorities to further political gain and control while duping them into voting for their brand of racism. Nothing has changed since he was assassinated. I know alot of folks don't care for Mr. X but he had a knack for labeling things more accurately than most (I didn't say he was right about everything he ever said)

https://youtu.be/0Jfp0_vIn2U

https://youtu.be/gTI4PD-2QLQ

And don’t forget about Louis Farrakhan. He is a great leader to his people. Unfortunately when we get great leaders they are disparaged, mocked and ultimately silenced by the powers that be.

[RamsesRibb]

So what are you guys mad about again?

Do you think it was murder or what?

Do you think the jury that studied the evidence is wromg?

A pilled out homeless guy picked up a loaded gun and fired a round. How sheltered are you guys?

What does him being an immigrant have to do with anything?

Where is the liability to the moron that left his gun laying there? None?

It was a ricochet, correct?


All serious questions.

Immigrants ask permission to be here. Otherwise you are automatically a criminal.

[RamsesRibb]

The new Ramses Ribb?

What? Who?? Nah!

[Scootertrash]

My offer to you...........that you would Oh So benefit from .........the tasty Korn kernels..........and scrumptious peanut brittle .........in my Do-Do ! .......and den we could talk about it .....

This boys and girls is a textbook example of sh!t posting. Cuz it's all about glamys p00p.

The scary thing is how much he knows about the consistency, contents, and taste of his own fecal matter.

glamys BFF:

[Caminofeld]

The jurors should have been told about his past/ if it was an avg american citizen like me thats the first thing the courts look at is your past records. Shep

Actually, in most cases the jury is not allowed to know any criminal history (because it could potentially bias them). Also, if in prison clothes the defendant is allowed to change-again to prevent bias. It's total bullshit and one of the reasons we have so many criminals being released.

[Shep1970]

Actually, in most cases the jury is not allowed to know any criminal history (because it could potentially bias them). Also, if in prison clothes the defendant is allowed to change-again to prevent bias. It's total bullshit and one of the reasons we have so many criminals being released.

Thank you camino, shows you how much i know about the court system/ although should be changed.
My wife's a director of a childcare, she runs peoples quaries all the time and its mostly 20-30 yr olds its just amazing how many of this generation has had some sort of run in with the law. Kinda scary actually.
There usually not small offences either, but they get upset when she can't hire them.

On a different note- i found out just recently that my wifes mom had my quarry (sp) ran when i started dating her daughter, just a little upset at that one but life goes on.

Shep

[Scootertrash]

I don't know if this is what the Dude meant by "hair trigger", but revolvers have two very different trigger pulls depending on if you manually cock the gun or not.

Well, first of all he said in his post:

The first time i was ever handed a semiauto pistol it was loaded and on hair trigger

First off, there is no button, switch, lever, etc, to change a trigger to "hair trigger mode".

There are a few types of triggers, including triggers on semi-autos that do the same thing that you mentioned about revolvers, but to keep this relatively simple we'll cover the two mentioned by you and the the dude. Then we'll cover the "hair trigger" aspect.

In a revolver, you would be talking about a Double Action trigger. Double Action meaning it cocks and releases the . The Double Action pistol can also be cocked with the thumb and the trigger will release the . The term Double Action refers to revolvers, not semi-autos. You'll see why below.

In the dudes scenario

loaded and on hair trigger

there will be some assumptions made, but only because I don't know the brand and model of pistol.

In order to be in so called "hair trigger mode" the pistol would have had to have been cocked.

The pistol would have had to be either a Single Action Only, or Double Action/ Single Action.

With the Single Action Only pistol, the must be cocked by hand for the trigger to release it. The trigger will not cock the , the action of the slide ejecting the spent case recocks the . Think 1911 style pistols.

Double Action/Single Action means you can fire the pistol either way, by just pulling the trigger or by cocking the pistol first.

My 1911 from the factory had a trigger pull of about 7lbs

The Double Action/Single Action Beretta M9 has a double action first trigger pull of approx 13lbs and a 5lb single action trigger for the following shots.

Some "experts" recommend no less than approx 4 lb trigger pull for conceal carry. My 1911 after the trigger job was done is right around 4.25lbs, yes, a noticeable difference from stock, but still no where near a "hair trigger".

I have aquaintences with competition pistols that have trigger pulls in the 2lb area. Now we're talking "hair trigger".

If you shot my 1911 and then I handed you the competition pistol AND TOLD YOU IT HAD A HAIR TRIGGER you would still be extremely surprised at how little effort it took to squeeze the trigger.

So how does one achieve this "hair trigger" you ask? Well, depending on the gun, polishing the and sear contact surfaces, changing the geometry of some of the trigger and/or and/or sear parts by sanding or filing, modifying and/or changing various springs in the trigger/ mechanism. if you're not careful you can end up with a pistol that slam fires or can go full auto

And once you've modified the parts the only way to go back to a "normal trigger" is to put factory original type parts back in.

So the gun wasn't "on hair trigger". Could it have had a hair trigger? Sure, but I doubt it. The only person who really knows is the guy who owns/owned the gun.

What I do know is The Dude took a gun from someone and broke 3 of the 4 rules:

Every gun is always loaded.

Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.

Keep the gun pointed in a safe direction.

If drugs and/or alcohol were involved I'm not buying the "hair trigger" story.


ETA: Any caps are for emphasis, not anger.

[Scootertrash]

Hey 'Chop!

Excellent posts, Thank You!

Can I subscribe to your newsletter?

[fabiodriven]

My god Scooter, who the frig cares? Most of us are very well versed in firearms. Nobody, not even Damon is saying he didn't frig up. It's like you're just looking for an argument.